1st Senior B in USA to be held in Salt Lake City, Utah in mid-September

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I'm starting a new thread from these April 6th posts in the earlier U.S. Senior B speculation thread and a few other reliable sources:
    Still waiting for this competition to be listed in the ISU 2012-13 Calendar as well as an official announcement via USFS.
  2. loopey

    loopey Well-Known Member

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    Was the US only getting one Event B, or trying for another one in California in addition (previous thread topic)?
  3. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I believe only one Senior B was planned for the U.S. and we know of at least 3 clubs that bid to host it.
  4. euterpe

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    Salt Lake is 4320' above sea level. Not as bad as Colorade Springs (6000') but may be a bit taxing for those not used to it.
  5. euterpe

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    double post.
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    Meh. I wuzrobbed of a 20 minute door-to-rink drive for this. OTOH, it's a short flight to SLC, and I've never been anywhere but the airport there. Wherever it is, :) that the USA will be hosting one of these.
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    I think it's 4,900 feet about sea level that starts to affect humans. I don't remember altitude being a problem at the Olympics.
  8. euterpe

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    I recall that it was a concern for skaters who train at sea level. All the top skaters arrived well ahead of the event in order to get accustomed to the altitude.

    Altitude will affect some people more than others. Anyone with asthma or other breathing problems can feel uncomfortable at 2000'. My husband had COPD and Lake Placid (1900') was a problem for him.
  9. loopey

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    While I wish this B event were in Ontario, so I could attend, I am so happy US will host a B Event!

    Yeah us!
  10. Lil Sarah

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    I'm hoping that means more Canadian athletes will get the opportunity to compete
  11. ChelleC

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    Great that there's finally a Senior B event in North America!
  12. aster

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    The sanction is listed in the Governing Council book.

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    Cup O'Salt?

    Any word on whether it includes all disciplines?
  14. chipso1

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    :rofl: Maybe 'Skate Salt Lake'?

    But seriously, this is great news! Finally a Sr. B in North America! :cheer2:
  15. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    "Skate Salt Lake" is the name of the club's annual summer competition :) (this year's dates are August 9-11, 2012): http://saltlakefigureskating.com

    Thanks for the provisional sanction info, aster!
  16. crzesk8dad

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    The Senior B submission in California was from the Glacier Falls Figure Skating Club, Inc. (host of 2004 Jr. Grand Prix of Long Beach, 2006 US Collegiate, numerous SWPs and most recently 2011 U. S. Synchro Nationals and sponsor of Skaters Care, a benefit for Japan Tsunami Relief).

    It was proposed by GF that the Senior B be held in conjunction with the Glacier Falls Summer Classic, held annually in early August. In response, US Figure Skating felt that date was too early for the Senior B season. Glacier Falls did not want to change the well established date of a major West Coast competition. GF also felt that a stand alone Senior B would not be financially successful due to the high costs of running a competition in Southern California.

    Salt Lake City has an excellent facility with a well established financial foundation (proceeds of the 2002 Winter Olys) and a terrific club and volunteer base. They will run a great competition.

    My sincere best wishes to them on having a great event.
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  17. Coco

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    Yeah for a North American Senior B!!!
  18. A.H.Black

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    The altitude here is about 4400 feet. (I use high altitude directions for baking). Of course it depends on where you are as this is the mountains. Altitude can have an affect on skaters. However, since the Winter Olympics are often, if not mostly, held at altitude, skaters will always need to train for it.

    Steiner (our name for the Salt Lake Sports Complex where adult Nationals were) is indeed a great facility and I can't imagine this competition will be held anywhere else. I believe this is happening because there is a young group of very capable and very enthusiastic people in the Utah Figure Skating Club who are going after competitions again.

    I surely hope I will be able to see most of this competition. Will Salt Lake be the permanent home for this competition? I bet it won't be.
  19. nubka

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    Are you in the SLC area? I live in Clearfield. :)
  20. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    ISU Communication No. 1727, published today, lists the new U.S. Senior B, September 13–16, in Salt Lake City, Utah. :)

    All 4 disciplines are included in the ISU Communication chart, but it will depend on many entries in each discipline are submitted by the participating federations.

    Copying this over from the "2012-13 Schedule for International Figure & Synchronized Skating Competitions" thread in GSD:
    I believe this is the first-ever Senior B in the USA so we'll have to wait for the competition announcement to be published online.
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  21. A.H.Black

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    My memory says that most senior B's are in the same place each year. Is that correct? Do we have any idea if the Salt Lake Senior B will be in Salt Lake each year. It would be very cool if it was.
  22. Rochelle

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    Okay, thank you Sylvia -- for the answer in reference to the questions on how many USA athletes can participates, and who determines that.
  23. DORISPULASKI

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    It would be cool...if your skater likes skating at altitude, and if you live in the West.

    OTOH, there is no reason that an East Coast Senior B couldn't be held, if not in the US, then in Canada.
  24. Ziggy

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    Can't believe that USFS is calling it "a senior B" in their official documents. :D

    And yeah, great news!

    Not only for American, Canadian and Mexican skaters but also for all the foreign skaters who train in US and Canada (and there are many). :)
  25. Braulio

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    It could be named the ´Salt Lake SkateGate Memorial´
  26. allezfred

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    I believe they've invented things called airplanes which are very good when you want to get somewhere far away from where you live. ;)

    They could turn Thornhill into an international event. Oh wait, they tried to last season, but couldn't get their act together. :p
  27. DORISPULASKI

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    Yes, lovey, there are airplanes...for those that can afford them...and afford the room & board & tickets at the same time, in the same year.

    :lol:

    However, the difficulty of finding a bar near a hotel in SLC is sufficient that I hope USFS will choose a different venue in another year.

    http://www.slctravel.com/liquor.htm

    The above website is happy to inform you that in the whole state of Utah, there are now 400 bars...that is, in 84,898 sq mi or 219,887 sq km...they do say it is now easier to drink in Utah though, than when we went there back in the 1990's.

    And yes, Canada failed to get Thornhill going as a Senior B last year. It's a shock that USFS has managed to do the trick. I had thought Skate Canada was more efficient than USFS...
  28. gkelly

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    Doesn't it depend on the number of federations represented by entrants and/or officials? So we still have to see whether SLC will pull it off.

    Are they doing this as a stand-alone competition or in conjunction with an established club competition? That might have been part of the hangup with Thornhill?

    I know my club considered bidding for the senior B in conjunction with our open competition and decided against it because it would be too much work to run essentially two major events at once.
  29. Sylvia

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    It looks like this new Senior B is a stand-alone comp. Salt Lake Figure Skating's annual club competition, Skate Salt Lake, is scheduled for August 9-11, 2012, in Murray, UT and will be co-hosted by the Murray Silver Blades FSC: http://www.saltlakefigureskating.com/ (no mention yet of this Senior B on their club site)
  30. Ziggy

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    #firstworldproblems :drama:

    Skating events = temporary food deprivation.

    YOU GOTTA SUFFER FOR SKATING.
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    My favorite microbrews on a trip to Utah 2 years ago were Polygamy Porter and Evolution Amber Ale from the Wasatch Brewery in Park City, both of which are worth getting just for the irreverent labels! :rofl:

    http://www.wasatchbeers.com/beers.html
  32. A.H.Black

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    There was a period of time after the Olympics when Salt Lake and surrounding areas didn't do much about hosting competitions. I think there were several reasons for the let down -

    - It seemed like everyone was a bit tired after the effort put into the Olympics and all the preceding events.

    - Several of those who were very involved in organizing efforts in Salt Lake moved on to other challenges and some of them are getting older.

    - There are many more rinks and skating clubs in Utah now than there were even 20 years ago. I would guess the number of clubs has more than tripled (or quadrupled) since I first stated actively going to shows and competitions in 1990. The number of new clubs has added many more skaters, but it has also somewhat diluted the concentration of people who were/are very active in organizing efforts.

    In the last few years a "new" core group of motivated and capable people have organized several competitions that have turned out very well. I think those who came to Salt Lake for Adult Nationals a few years ago were quite complimentary. This new group seems to have the energy and ambition to bid for and attract new competitions like the new Senior B. I think Salt Lake will do an excellent job.
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  33. Rochelle

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    Yes, I attended ANs there in April 2011, and quite a few from our rink attended Junior Nationals there in December 2010 -- both competitions went above and beyond in their communication, organization, and volunteer staffing. It was a very nice experience!

    The facility it's self (Salt Lake Sports Complex) is also one of the nicest that I've been to -- and WARM. As in, Midwesterners wearing short sleeves all day long in the stands and be warm enough--in April. It's a solid location for such a competition, and there's a fair amount to do on the tourist side as well if you're an athlete with a day off.

    Also, as a relatively speaking not-the-most-fit-but-good-enough-for-2:40 freskates and gold dances athlete... the 4,000-ish ft. altitude was a complete non-issue for me. And most adults. And most junior national kids. I felt a much bigger difference between Salt Lake City and Broadmoor/Colorado Springs, then I did between Salt Lake City and sea level. As long as someone doesn't have preexisting health issues strained by altitude (asthma, etc.), I don't think the vast majority of athletes will have much of a problem with the altitude. Any problems getting through their programs will most likely be due to the fact that, hey, it's August.
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    Here's preliminary schedule:
    http://t.co/Pzf2p1mQ

    PRELIMINARY SCHEDULE (subject to change)

    The final schedule of all the events, with practice sessions and practice groups, will be given upon
    arrival. Official practice sessions will begin on Wednesday, September 12.

    Wednesday, September 12
    Official practice sessions.
    Judges’ Meeting

    Thursday, September 13
    Short Dance
    Men’s Short Program

    Friday, September 14
    Ladies Short Program
    Pairs Short Program
    Free Dance
    Men’s Free Skate
    Awards
    Judges’ Round Table Discussion – Men & Ice Dance

    Saturday, September 15
    Ladies Free Skate
    Pairs Free Skate
    Awards
    Judges’ Round Table Discussion – Pairs & Ladies

    Sunday, September 16
    Departures
  35. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Thanks for posting the link to the Announcement!
  36. TanithandBenFan

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    So there won't be a gala on Sunday? I hope the US sends the max entries in each discipline!
  37. Ziggy

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    Shame they are limiting the number of entries so much but given it's the first time they are organising it, I can understand they want to stay on top of it and see how it plays out.

    I thought USFS would enter more than 3 skaters though, there's nothing prohibiting them from entering as many as they wish.

    There should be huge interest, it's going to be an amazing event. :)
  38. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I missed seeing the sentence (bolded below) in the Announcement earlier:
    Glad to see this new opportunity for the up-and-coming U.S. skaters! :cool: (USFS had been using the Skate San Francisco club competition the past 2 years for this purpose, but the invited skaters had to pay their own way, IIRC.)
  39. Jayar

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    If I inderstand it correc tly, the Canadian Team Camp is the same week as this event. As such, none of team Canada would compete.
  40. Sylvia

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    What about the Canadian skaters not on the National Team? (below top 5)