16 year old Solo Sailor Feared Lost

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  1. Catherine M

    Catherine M Well-Known Member

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  2. skipaway

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    She's in my prayers....how terrifying for her.
  3. Matryeshka

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    I know this isn't original, but what were her parents thinking?!! I hope the parents of that Dutch girl who wants to do the same and is even younger is paying attention to this.
  4. *Jen*

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    The Australian girl just made it all the way around, and she was 16 too. I thought her parents were mad as well but can't help thinking that she had a better rescue system in place. 400 miles from the nearest ship? I really hope she's okay :(
  5. Catherine M

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    I feel sorry for the random fishing boat captain that had to make the decision on whether to risk his boat and crew to go see if they can find her.

    As for the parents, I have no comment.
  6. Lanie

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    My husband's parents know this family. I feel sorry for them but at the same time I don't see why anyone would let a child do this alone.
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    Indeed!

    Hoping that she is found, safe.
    My thoughts are with her family and friends.
  8. danceronice

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    "Her seventeen-year-old older brother managed just fine last year"?

    She's sixteen, the odds of her dying in a car wreck were higher. The article I just saw was being cautiously optimistic she'll be found alive.
  9. *Jen*

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    Just heard on Australian radio that both Australia and Reunion Island are sending rescue choppers. Hopefully they'll get to the area quickly and find her.
  10. LilJen

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    Yikes. Yikes. I can't imagine being those parents and second-guessing allowing her to do this. . .
  11. shan

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    :( I hope she's okay!
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    :shuffle: All righty then. Whereas there is data aplenty about the millions of us who survived driving ...

    ... I'm thinking there's really not a viable statistical sample to determine the death rate for children sailing solo around the world.

    Horrible parenting. Just awful. :angryfire And aren't there sailing age requirements? So, now ... millions of dollars to be spent to perhaps rescue this child. And if she's found alive (God willing), it'll serve to encourage a 15 year-old to top that, then 14, 13, 12, 11 ... and so on. Lovely.
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  13. Ziggy

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    Things like this really annoy me because whether people are underage or not, it's their own (or their parents') choice to do this. And they cream the opportunities it can bring if successful.

    But when things go wrong, we have to foot the rescue services bill.
  14. Angelskates

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    How are all these people affording to do this? Sponsors won't want to keep sponsoring if it becomes a regular thing. I always wonder if they need a "rescue fund" - sending out rescue crews is not a cheap thing.

    I hope she's found, and that she's okay.

    She will, like Jessica Watson, not be eligible for an official record even if she makes it, because the record for sailing around the world starts at 18 so as not to encourage younger and younger people to risk their lives.
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    Didn't a 13 year old just successfully climb Mt Everest? Everyone said he was crazy and too young before he did it, but he did it.
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    I just saw this on the news and he admitted it was stupid and encouraged other young people not to attempt such stunts. And he was sun/windburned beyond belief...
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    I find comfort in this quote from CNN:
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    That's what irks me too. Yes, I hope she's found safely, but now all this additional manpower and resources have to be redirected and exerted to remedy a rather reckless decision.
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    But at least he went with 3 experienced sherpa guides, in addition to his father and dad's girlfriend.
  20. manleywoman

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    True, GK. True.
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    This is totally stupid. I agree with everyone else-why would her parents let her do this? It is setting yourself up for disaster. She is a CHILD I don't care how good she is at sailing. She does not have the same experience as an adult who has been doing this for years and years and can think on their feet. There should have been an experienced adult with her for safety. I really hope she is found.
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    I just hope she is found safely!
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    Praying she's found safely!
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    Then her parents were not just stupid once, but twice. Seventeen, sixteen, five year olds, three month olds survive car accidents. It is an acceptable risk, and for most, a necessary one. A solo trip around the world in a sail boat isn't; it's simply vanity--for ANY age. I mean, I sailed around the world alone? My first thought isn't, wow, it's why. Even if it was a 53 year old male.

    As for her brother, the difference between sixteen and seventeen can be quite profound in terms of maturity. Also, I know this is un-PC, but he would be a lot stronger and better able to manage/survive for longer in case of storms/waves. And didn't the teenager that did do it safely mention in the article he was now seeing a psychiatrist to deal with the lonliness he felt? :yikes: Sounds like tons of fun.

    There are so many things that can go wrong, I don't care if her whole family did it first. Or the entire state of California. It was dumb, and I hope other families who have kids that want to do things like this pay attention.

    One big hoorah though to Guiness Book of World Records for cutting out the youngest to... category. At least someone learned something.
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  27. Prancer

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    No, they're not. You can't apply a statistic to an individual.

    The odds are that most Americans between certain ages who die accidentally will most likely die in a car accident. That's because the most dangerous things most Americans do is get in a car--and even then the odds are that most of them will survive every single time they do it. In this case, you have an individual who is doing something much riskier than getting in a car, which means that that individual's risk is much greater than the risks faced by all the combined average 16-year-olds for whom the statistic applies.

    As soon as she got in that boat, her risk factor went way beyond anything that would apply to 16-year-old American girls.

    I hope she's found safe and sound. I have a 16-year-old; I just can't imagine any of it--the parents, the voyage, the loneliness, the terror......16 may be very competent and skilled, but it is still so very young.
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    I'm an experienced sailor. 48 years of sailing. 10 years of teaching and running sailing programs on Lake Michigan, sailed the West Indies and there is no way I would even think of attempting something like this.
    I have sailed with some of the most experienced sailors in the world (America's Cup and Whitbread competitors) and they wouldn't do this themselves. I can't image the terror she would have gone though out there that far from land and rescue.
  29. *Jen*

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    A Qantas airbus should be in the area right now but I really hope she's in no real distress, as the article said that rescue boats won't reach the area for about 24 hours and no one can really jump off the airbus to help.

    It's the wrong time of year to be making that kind of trip, 16 or 36. It's winter in the Southern Hemisphere and the storms are a lot worse than usual. That's precisely why Jessica Watson did her 6 or 7 months over the summer period.
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    I completely agree.

    I would think a sixteen year old sailing around the world alone would grow up really fast. And I would also assume that she is as strong as she needs to be. If not, she certainly should not be sailing alone under most circumstances.

    What bothers me is that a sixteen-year-old is not an adult and parents remain responsible for that teen to a certain extent. If the teen doesn't survive the journey the parents are going to feel guilt and remorse for the rest of their lives. Even more so if they encouraged the teen to set out on such a big trip alone.

    Though in all cases it would seem only prudent to advise the would-be-adventurer to sail with companions.
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  32. Angelskates

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    I'm glad she's okay. I hope that she doesn't not continue, and that any funds she makes from selling her story will go to pay for the search teams.
  33. Evilynn

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    That's what I heard too.

    I'm glad she's alright, but I can't help but wonder what this cost the .au tax payers. :shuffle:
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    Yeah, right. :lol:

    I'm glad she's alive, but I too wonder about the stupidity of her parents' decision. I wonder what they would have thought and said if she had died. Be sorry they let her do it or be proud that at least she died living her dream? Probably both, but 16 is an awful young age to die.

    It seems like she's going to be OK, so I think the story will be: yes, it was dangerous but we knew our daughter was prepared to deal with it and she did. She had an adventure of her life and our decision was justified. Everyone's happy.

    Taxpayers: Say what?

    If you think about it, what was really the reason for doing it so young? Would have it been less of an experience if she was 18? I don't think so. I think the main reason was to set a record. At 16 people have a lot of dreams and ideas, should their parents let them do it just because they want to?

    Say, she said, mom I want to experience motherhood now, why wait? I want to be young mom. I can get pregnant and give birth, you can help me take care of the baby and support us financially (or we could find sponsors too, I could name the baby Gillette if they wanted me to) since I'm too young to be able to afford a baby. But it's a dream of mine and I want it now!
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    I didn't want to say this yesterday because she was missing and searching for her was the top priority. But now I can be judgemental.

    Sailing the world alone at 16? I am very impressed with her parents' decision, NOT!

    They can say whatever they like, but don't tell me vanity and fame are not part of the motivation. I am not saying her parents are at the same level of fame whoring as the balloon boy's parents, but I too, hope they are held responsible to pay back Aussie tax payers for the search effort. Big chance at that huh?

    And call me old fashioned, but I don't find missing school months at length and knowing whenever you are in trouble, you can just whip out a transmitter and cry for help all that inspiring.
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    So glad she is found and safe! Bravo to her and her parents for understanding the meaning of risk and adventure!
  37. cruisin

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    Matryeshka and WindSpirit - ITA.

    What were her parents thinking? What really should be done is fine the parents for the cost of the search. It's one thing when someone goes missing due to circumstances beyond their control. But when parents are that irresponsible, they should have to at least pay for part of it.

    That said, thank goodness she's okay.
  38. Angelskates

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    Too bad there is no way for the Australian government to sue for reimbursement. This was not an, "I think my child has been kidnapped" or a plane crash or something else preventable, this it was a search operation based on this girl's (and her family's) recklessness. Would some kind of insurance cover this?

    I would like to think any government would help an Australian out in the same way (I am sure they probably would), but I also think there should be a way to recoup costs (not just for her, but in any similar situation), especially if it turns out she does make a lot of money from this incident, which I think is likely. I think the Australian government did the right thing (I supposed they could have refused, and can imagine some supporting that, and some being outraged against it), now she should do the same and pay for costs incurred.
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  39. *Jen*

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    And the French. The Australians may have sent the plane that found her, but there were search and rescue crews sent from Reunion Island too. I think those are the boats which will pick her up tomorrow.

    It would be nice if she paid for her rescue, but by the same token if they hadn't helped out I would have been outraged. She's 16 and in trouble.

    Let me rephrase that then...her parents, sponsers and anyone who encouraged this should pay for the rescue :shuffle:
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    This seems like quite negligent parenting. Teenagers want to do lots of things that reasonable parents don't allow.

    I am glad that she seems to be okay, at least for the moment, but her parents should really be called to account.

    And I hope they get a whopping big bill from the Search and Rescue folks too.