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CantALoop
01-24-2013, 01:37 AM
I voted for Argo - I absolutely loved how it wove together actual footage from history within the fabric of the movie, and how much detail and attention they paid to recreating the time and setting of the events.

I felt that it seemed so earnest whereas Lincoln, although superbly cast and acted, was directed and written with so much grandstanding I had to roll my eyes at some monologues where they might as well have flashed "NOMINATE US!" on the screen.

Wyliefan
01-24-2013, 05:50 PM
I think that Lincoln will win, but I wish Les Mis could. Loved both of them, but Les Mis was in a class by itself.

Artemis@BC
02-02-2013, 07:38 PM
Ok, finally saw Les Mis last night. And, while I enjoyed it very much, and it definitely deserves to be in the top 10 list for the year ... I still don't think it's the best picture of the year. When it's a film that's adapted from another source, the film should be better to qualify as Best Picture, IMO. And Les Mis on film simply isn't as good as the stage version. Unlike Life of Pi, which was better than the book. (In my not-so-humble opinion.) Plus Life of Pi had me completely engaged and immersed from beginning to end, whereas I found myself distracted and picking nits in various places in Les Mis.

So. If Argo can buck the trend and win best picture despite the director not being nominated ... Argo should win. (Plus it has the advantage that I actually think it could win, unlike Pi which I'm fairly certain won't.) But if it goes according to norm, I think Lincoln and Spielberg will win (even tho they shouldn't).

Vash01
02-02-2013, 09:52 PM
I would like to see Argo win, like the majority here, but every day I become more convinced that Lincoln is going to win the best picture.

peibeck
02-02-2013, 10:36 PM
The momentum is with "Argo" after winning the Golden Globe, PGA, and Screen Actors Guild ensemble award. If Ben Affleck wins the DGA tonight, and "Argo" wins Best Picture at the BAFTAs the race is over.

Should win? My vote would be "Life of Pi," the only movie which haunted my imagination weeks after seeing the movie.

KatieC
02-03-2013, 04:40 AM
Hated Beasts of the Southern Wild, Silver Linings Playbook was okay, not Oscar worthy, Argo the same. Liked Lincoln quite a bit and loved Life of Pi. So that's where my vote goes. Have to confess I haven't seen the others. Also liked Skyfall.

Vash01
02-03-2013, 07:42 AM
I saw a part of Piers Morgan tonight (may have been a rerun), with Jennifer Lawrence and the director of Silver linings (David Russell). She is pretty awesome. I still would prefer Jessica win the Oscar, but Jennifer has a fantastic movie career ahead of her, regardless of what happens at the Oscars this time.

victoriaheidi
02-03-2013, 08:58 AM
Affleck won the DGA Award tonight. Typically, the DGA predicts Best Director, so...that'll be interesting.

Spareoom
02-03-2013, 02:54 PM
Fascinating. These Oscars should be interesting because some of the big awards are really not predictable. Best Supporting Actor, the battle of the two J's for Best Actress, and who the heck will win Best Picture?! I still contend that it won't be Argo because the Academy seemed determined to bury it, but who knows. Backlash is a powerful thing. And I wonder how the winner of Best Director will feel knowing they won th Oscar but NOTHING else? Lol! Drama abounds!

Anyway, it makes Affleck's snub so much more bizarre. I'm sure it's hard for him to feel bad with his armful of prestigious awards, but there's still a huge "what if" that has got to bother him. A Best Pcture win would go a ways to fixing that but still, it ain't the same!

Ozzisk8tr
02-03-2013, 03:01 PM
Affleck won the DGA Award tonight. Typically, the DGA predicts Best Director, so...that'll be interesting.
I wonder how embarrassed the Academy are now for shunning Affleck? Me thinks Argo will win best picture.

screech
02-03-2013, 04:23 PM
I wonder how embarrassed the Academy are now for shunning Affleck? Me thinks Argo will win best picture.

This is what confuses me a bit, because movie directors are the ones who nominate the directors for the Oscars (you can only give your nomination picks for the category you work in, but then every member can vote for the winner of every category). Obviously the directors like Ben, since he won the DGA, so it's very confusing.

I haven't seen Argo, but if it wens, Ben does get an Oscar (as a producer) so it would be a sort of consolation prize for him, since he really wanted that Oscar for directing. And I think he will get that reward.

Vash01
02-03-2013, 05:32 PM
Affleck won the DGA Award tonight. Typically, the DGA predicts Best Director, so...that'll be interesting.

Shame on the academy for not recognizing the excellence of Affleck as Director. I am wondering if they wanted to make sure that Spielberg will get his third Oscar by not nominating Affleck and Bigelow? They were his main competition. I am not saying Spielberg is not deserving of the honor, but this award should have an asterisk (*) against it.

peibeck
02-03-2013, 06:27 PM
Fascinating. These Oscars should be interesting because some of the big awards are really not predictable. Best Supporting Actor, the battle of the two J's for Best Actress, and who the heck will win Best Picture?! I still contend that it won't be Argo because the Academy seemed determined to bury it, but who knows. Backlash is a powerful thing. And I wonder how the winner of Best Director will feel knowing they won th Oscar but NOTHING else? Lol! Drama abounds!

Anyway, it makes Affleck's snub so much more bizarre. I'm sure it's hard for him to feel bad with his armful of prestigious awards, but there's still a huge "what if" that has got to bother him. A Best Pcture win would go a ways to fixing that but still, it ain't the same!

I doubt "Argo" would win only the Best Picture trophy; if/when it wins, it will likely be like "Crash" several years ago and take the top prize, perhaps screenplay, and a very good shot at editing. Affleck, as someone else mentioned, is one of the producers. So if it wins Best Picture, he won't go home empty handed despite not being nominated for director.


This is what confuses me a bit, because movie directors are the ones who nominate the directors for the Oscars (you can only give your nomination picks for the category you work in, but then every member can vote for the winner of every category). Obviously the directors like Ben, since he won the DGA, so it's very confusing.


There are a lot more DGA members than directors who are members of the Academy. DGA includes TV (including commercial) directors. Of the 14 branches of the Academy, the Directors branch is much smaller than the actors, writers and producers branches.

It's also possible that when then Academy members voted, they assumed Affleck would get a nod and individuals pushed up a less likely director (Russell, Haneke, and Zeitlen) they hoped to see get a nomination. Even if they voted for Affleck on their ballot as a fourth or fifth choice, with the weighted ballot it may have been too little-too late.

VIETgrlTerifa
02-03-2013, 06:59 PM
Shame on the academy for not recognizing the excellence of Affleck as Director. I am wondering if they wanted to make sure that Spielberg will get his third Oscar by not nominating Affleck and Bigelow? They were his main competition. I am not saying Spielberg is not deserving of the honor, but this award should have an asterisk (*) against it.

Then which nominee would you personally kick out of the Best Director category and thus not giving them any deserved recognition as well?

I'm getting tired for the Poor Affleck story because he's anything but "poor." I think what got lost is that this past year was simply a strong year for movies and reasonable minds differ on who should be in and should be out.

If the Best Director winner at the Oscars is going to have an asterisk on it, then will every winner who upsets the favorite (that has won most of the precursors by a wide margin) not be deemed a "proper" winner? What about all the wins Affleck has? If we're going to argue that the Oscars lost credibility for not nominating him, then one can argue that him being snubbed by the Director's Branch (but not by the entire Academy as Argo was nominated for a generous amount of awards) helped him win those awards as they wanted to give him a consolation prize a la Spielberg for The Color Purple and Ron Howard for Apollo 13.

I think I'm just annoyed because I watched all the movies and it's a shame that people are sort of dismissing the nominees who did get in all for the Affleck story (and ignoring Bigelow in the process). I know the Globes, Broadcast Critics, DGA gave Affleck best Director, but does that mean the Academy is truly wrong in maybe placing him 6th or lower and instead nominating the Haneke for Amour or Behn Zeitlin for Beasts of the Southern Wild? Although I hated SLP, enough people like it enough to explain how David O. Russell got in and are they wrong for nominating him just because I personally didn't care for his work in SLP?

Anita18
02-03-2013, 07:34 PM
There was similar uproar when Chris Nolan didn't get noms for BP or BD for The Dark Knight despite being nominated for all the guild awards. (It was a big reason why the Academy switched up the BP voting.) So this is not the first time it's happened, although Nolan did not win the DGA that year and make the Academy look especially stupid. :lol: