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crzesk8dad
01-19-2013, 05:17 PM
It's an interesting thread. I think in Canada and in US the FS is a very expensive sport, the skaters come from the middle-class or gentility. Right? But I always thought, if anybody performs in shows he earned enough money for his life. Isn't true? BUt I know Weir is a famous star, but he hadn't enough money for his preparation.....

:rofl: gentility

Thanks for my morning chuckle!

crzesk8dad
01-19-2013, 05:18 PM
dupe

crzesk8dad
01-19-2013, 05:21 PM
Are any of the coaches just ridiculous spendthrifts who order room service and martinis 10 times a day and make the skater pay their bill?

Yup, there are a few! Many are not.

maatTheViking
01-19-2013, 05:28 PM
Are any of the coaches just ridiculous spendthrifts who order room service and martinis 10 times a day and make the skater pay their bill?

Not sure this really warrants a reply, but I'm pretty sure martinis is not be cost.

To compare, when competed as an amateur (very, very amateur) with my horse, I paid for my trainers room and travel, but not food. Compared to all the other things (horse trailering, show fees, stall fee at show, competition clothes, not to mention day to day training, board and feed), it may seem like a drop in he bucket, but even just paying 50% of a hotel room isn't cheap (assuming my trainer had another rider at the show).

I am certain there are so many things that add up in figure skating too!

lala
01-19-2013, 06:50 PM
:rofl: gentility

Thanks for my morning chuckle!

Is that bad word? :slinkaway:cold: sorry, for my awful english...:) Yes, in America there are no noble...

Zemgirl
01-19-2013, 06:58 PM
Is that bad word? :slinkaway:cold: sorry, for my awful english...:) Yes, in America there are no noble...
It's a bit old-fashioned. But don't apologize; your English is quite good, and what better way to get better than by discussing skating? :D

lala
01-19-2013, 07:13 PM
It's a bit old-fashioned. But don't apologize; your English is quite good, and what better way to get better than by discussing skating? :D

Thank you, you are very polite,but I perfectly know my limitations. But you're right, I studied English because of the figure skating. :encore: :D

Cherub721
01-19-2013, 07:22 PM
It's an interesting thread. I think in Canada and in US the FS is a very expensive sport, the skaters come from the middle-class or gentility. Right?

Yes, basically. I don't know a lot about Canadian skaters, but most Americans seem to come from a pretty good financial background. This article (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/us-ice-dancers-buy-russian-partners/281606.html) discusses some ice dancers whose parents paid for their partners to come to the US (it's over 10 years old, though, and the trend is now for both partners to be American).

There are some notable exceptions, though, like Rudy Galindo, who grew up in a trailer park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailer_park). Here are some (http://www.glbtq.com/arts/galindo_r.html) articles (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-05-29/sports/9605290013_1_rudy-galindo-trailer-park-gays-and-lesbians) about him.

Tonya Harding (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19940113&slug=1889460) also came from modest means.

lala
01-19-2013, 08:21 PM
double post..

lala
01-19-2013, 08:28 PM
Yes, basically. I don't know a lot about Canadian skaters, but most Americans seem to come from a pretty good financial background. This article (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/us-ice-dancers-buy-russian-partners/281606.html) discusses some ice dancers whose parents paid for their partners to come to the US (it's over 10 years old, though, and the trend is now for both partners to be American).

There are some notable exceptions, though, like Rudy Galindo, who grew up in a trailer park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailer_park). Here are some (http://www.glbtq.com/arts/galindo_r.html) articles (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-05-29/sports/9605290013_1_rudy-galindo-trailer-park-gays-and-lesbians) about him.

Tonya Harding (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19940113&slug=1889460) also came from modest means.

Thank you, Cherub! There were very very interesting informations and articles. I didn't know...When I read about Rudy, I remembered Greg Luganis...

I have not found Williams-Boundoukin video on YouTube, they didn't become well-known skaters?

( I know the trailer park, I saw many times the Independence Day movie :lol: )

Cherub721
01-19-2013, 08:44 PM
Thank you, Cherub! There were very very interesting informations and articles. I didn't know...When I read about Rudy, I remembered Greg Luganis...

I have not found Williams-Boundoukin video on YouTube, they didn't become well-known skaters?


I don't think so. I've never seen them skate. I guess a lot of those guys ended up coaching once they got to the US.

Rudy is so inspiring... his winning in his hometown at the 1996 Nationals is one of the best stories in skating. :)

lala
01-19-2013, 09:04 PM
I don't think so. I've never seen them skate. I guess a lot of those guys ended up coaching once they got to the US.

Rudy is so inspiring... his winning in his hometown at the 1996 Nationals is one of the best stories in skating. :)

There are some fantastic people in the World, I feel I will be better because of them....

NadineWhite
01-20-2013, 08:08 AM
Love this thread, thanks for starting it TheIronLady. :cool:

Yep, Rudy & Tonya are the exceptions. On the opposite end of the spectrum would be someone like Tara Lipinski, who came from a wealthy Texas oilfield IIRC. But usually skaters fall somewhere in the middle, literally, meaning upper middle class. Nancy Kerrigan's parents were both blue collar, as were Michelle Kwan's, Johnny Weir's, Evan Lysacek, et al.

Lol still chuckling about the martinis comment, and the response. :eek: :lol:

Sylvia
02-12-2013, 02:47 AM
Edmonton Journal article: Love of figure skating, hard work drives Jessica Amy Sergeant (http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/Love+figure+skating+hard+work+drives+Jessica+Serge ant/7934596/story.html) (IMO, the "average skater" in this thread should include someone who placed 16th in Senior at 2013 Canadian Nationals)
Excerpt:

Jessica Amy Sergeant wakes up at 4:30 a.m. every day.

But the 22-year-old figure skater doesn’t get ready for class or a morning run.

Instead, Sergeant heads to Starbucks at South Edmonton Common for a seven-hour shift. After work, she makes the 30-minute trek to the Londonderry arena to train until late in the afternoon. She then stays at the rink to coach young skaters until 7:30 p.m.

“Then I go home, and pretty much go to bed,” Sergeant said. “I haven’t had an actual day off in a long time.”

For the last few years, Sergeant has been financing her own skating, with some financial assistance from her club.
...

Sergeant, who estimates her training expenses at $18,000 last year, spends an average of $1,200 on skates, and replaces them once or twice a year.

“Depending on how long the boot lasts and how (many) sharpenings you get with the blade,” she said.

“I ask for a budget from my coaches for this upcoming season,” said Sergeant, who receives technical support from Doug Schmierer. “They came up with a budget of $25,000. And that didn’t include equipment costs.”

This year, Extreme Edge Skating Club opted to waive ice fees for all skaters who make it to the Skate Canada Challenge.

“For me, they’ve paid my ice fees for the past two years, so it’s awesome,” said Sergeant.

“It’s a huge chunk of money off of a bill for an elite athlete,” Duffy said.
(Angela Duffy is Sergeant’s coach and choreographer.)

dewey
02-12-2013, 06:41 PM
Rohene Ward is an example of a very talented skater who struggled to find enough money to train and ultimately had to retire from competition. A lot of people have wondered what he might have achieved if he had been able to afford unlimited coaching and ice time.