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numbers123
12-22-2012, 04:23 PM
I think that if all she wanted to do was have sex with multiple men, she could have done it in a much less complicated way. The fact that she chose to become a prostitute rather than just a woman who had sex with multiple men just because she enjoys sex would be more indicative of psychological problems than not, but perhaps that's just me.

But if you are good at something (and I don't know whether or not she is) and someone is willing to pay you for your abilities, why turn it down?

Let's see,if someone plays basketball well, in fact excellent, but it is just a game, why not get paid for it - like the are? We don't attach diseases, or place a stigma on it, we pay them big dollars to see them play.

Just sayin' she is or is assumed to be really good at it - hence the high price of the 2 or 4 or however long session, why not obtain monetary benefit from it?

skatesindreams
12-22-2012, 05:53 PM
This shouldn't have become a public matter.
It should have remained between Ms, Hamilton, her husband, and her doctor.

AliasJohnDoe
12-22-2012, 06:02 PM
I personally never saw anything wrong with escorts/prostitution. It should be legal. It's her/his body and they should choose what they do with it.

I agree.... how come the people who pay for the escort service are never mentioned? How many Disney CEO's have used an escort service? More than we probably think.

skatesindreams
12-22-2012, 06:12 PM
This shouldn't have become a public matter.
It should have remained between Ms, Hamilton, her husband, and her doctor.

skatesindreams
12-22-2012, 06:17 PM
delete (glitch)

Prancer
12-22-2012, 06:21 PM
Let's see,if someone plays basketball well, in fact excellent, but it is just a game, why not get paid for it - like the are? We don't attach diseases, or place a stigma on it, we pay them big dollars to see them play.

Just sayin' she is or is assumed to be really good at it - hence the high price of the 2 or 4 or however long session, why not obtain monetary benefit from it?

You consider professional sports and prostitution analagous?

Do you think the psychological effects are the same?


I agree.... how come the people who pay for the escort service are never mentioned?

Eliot Spitzer
Hugh Grant
Jerry Springer
David Vidder
Ted Haggard
Jimmy Swaggart

I can do a much longer list if you need one, but that list right there is longer than the list of escorts I could name off the top of my head.

Ugh, skatesindreams, that is some glitch you get.

overedge
12-22-2012, 08:08 PM
Yeah, but if she was working as a prostitute why wouldn't news agencies call it that? Call a spade a spade. I'm also very confused what they mean exactly by escort.

The news agencies probably didn't call her a prostitute because prostitution is illegal in some jurisdictions. If she hasn't been convicted in court of being a prostitute, then there could be legal problems (like libel or slander) with calling her that.

"Escort" agencies call themselves that for precisely that reason. So if they are busted they can claim that they aren't pimps or brothels or living off the avails of prostitution. All they are doing is making the bookings for men to have a nice night out with these women, and they certainly aren't telling the women they have to sleep with the clients, oh heavens no.

Also, apparently there's a fair number of escort agency clients who like the name "escort" because it helps them convince themselves that they're not buying the services of a prostitute, or cheating on their significant others. Prostitute/hooker = streetwalker picked up for a quickie. Escort = lovely classy lady who is charming and who you spend some time with, in addition to the quickie.

(This according to my students who are in law enforcement/corrections.)

numbers123
12-22-2012, 08:44 PM
You consider professional sports and prostitution analogous? Do you think the psychological effects are the same?

No, I was just trying to point out that perhaps she really was good at what she did, like it, and good paid well for the activity. I am not saying that there aren't psychological effects or that someone is unaware of what those are. Just maybe she liked being an escort, we really don't know. But I still think that it should be a "so....what?" and a private matter.

Prancer
12-22-2012, 09:17 PM
The news agencies probably didn't call her a prostitute because prostitution is illegal in some jurisdictions. If she hasn't been convicted in court of being a prostitute, then there could be legal problems (like libel or slander) with calling her that.

The very first line of the first linked article is: Three-time Olympian Suzy Favor Hamilton says she coped with depression and a troubled marriage by turning to a life of prostitution.


No, I was just trying to point out that perhaps she really was good at what she did, like it, and good paid well for the activity. I am not saying that there aren't psychological effects or that someone is unaware of what those are. Just maybe she liked being an escort, we really don't know. But I still think that it should be a "so....what?" and a private matter.

I guess I find it hard to believe that anyone "likes" being an escort, particularly when the person says that she was working as an escort because she is depressed and struggling.

AliasJohnDoe
12-22-2012, 10:53 PM
I guess I find it hard to believe that anyone "likes" being an escort, particularly when the person says that she was working as an escort because she is depressed and struggling.

I've known people who worked in the escort business - male and female. While some didn't feel comfortable in it, others enjoyed it very much. Especially the money.

While I can understand why she may have gone into the escort business because she was struggling financially, I don't understand why she got into it because she was depressed. The depression part makes little sense, unless she was depressed about finances.

It's a profession that isn't for everyone. But there really are escorts who "like" their profession.

overedge
12-22-2012, 10:58 PM
The very first line of the first linked article is: Three-time Olympian Suzy Favor Hamilton says she coped with depression and a troubled marriage by turning to a life of prostitution.

"A life of prostitution" is not the same as specifically calling a particular person a prostitute.

MacMadame
12-22-2012, 11:43 PM
For $600, yes, you can bet that sex-for-money was part of the deal
I dont' think you can make a blanket statement like that. I think the price a man would expect sex would vary as would the price a women would be willing to put out for.


Legalizing prostitution tends to lead to an increase in sex trafficking, among other things.

I'm not certain it is possible for sex workers to not be abused in prostitution. Or perhaps exploited is a better word.
It seems to work in other countries.


You consider professional sports and prostitution analagous?

I do! I consider being a computer consultant somewhat analagous to being a prostitute as well. That's where the name "MacMadame" came from. I was a computer consultant at the time specializing in jobs that involved Macs.

Prancer
12-23-2012, 02:28 AM
It seems to work in other countries.

The data on sex trafficking in countries with legalized prostitution comes from those countries.

Roughly 75% of women who work as escorts--not street prostitutes, but escorts--attempt or commit suicide. Sounds like they really enjoy the work to me and it's no different from any other job.

Garden Kitty
12-23-2012, 02:28 AM
While I can understand why she may have gone into the escort business because she was struggling financially, I don't understand why she got into it because she was depressed. The depression part makes little sense, unless she was depressed about finances.

This article addresses some of those issues (http://www.ydr.com/sports/ci_22240931/secret-life-costs-olympian-disney-gig-maybe-more) - it's all speculation of course, so who knows how accurate it is, but it does raise some interesting issues. I think the article also addresses one of the reasons that people find interesting what in most cases would be a private matter - the whole idea that someone who seems to have it all is still struggling with issues.

maatTheViking
12-23-2012, 02:51 AM
The data on sex trafficking in countries with legalized prostitution comes from those countries.

Roughly 75% of women who work as escorts--not street prostitutes, but escorts--attempt or commit suicide. Sounds like they really enjoy the work to me and it's no different from any other job.

I used to think prostitution should be legal, with many of the arguments presented here.
But after I talked with people who worked with prostitutes and read more data I think buying sex should be criminalizes.
The myth about 'the happy hooker' is just that - a myth. A very small percentage of people in the sex industry does I voluntarily, or wouldn't choose another type of work if they could.

And this might be in addition to trafficking issues...