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Carmen Ovsiannikov
12-14-2012, 08:24 PM
The more news that becomes available the worse it gets. I'm watching my local NBC station here in CT and apparently Lanza's brother was apprehended outside the school. As the anchor said, it's tragic that it's beginning to appear that some sort of family drama got out of hand and claimed 27 innocent lives in the crossfire.

ArtisticFan, good points about the pressure the news anchors are under. A few times, I've heard their voices shake as if they are trying not to break down but they have to keep it together on the air. I think it's made all the worse by how many young children were taken away from their families.

love_skate2011
12-14-2012, 08:25 PM
an animal ! :mad:
how could they hurt kids, well he must had something really bad with his dead mom because he shot most of her students too


and btw that poor fake Ryan Lanza facebook , that is obviously the wrong one, poor guy had to delete his facebook,

UMBS Go Blue
12-14-2012, 08:27 PM
Gets even more terrifying:
http://on.wsj.com/VGJG1A

Apparently, teachers and administrators were well-trained for such a situation, and a lockdown alert was aired over the PA system; however, whoever went on the PA system may have gotten caught in the crossfire and also broadcast the screaming and gunshots throughout the entire school.

(((Condolences to all those affected))) :(

Vash01
12-14-2012, 08:29 PM
Majority of the victims were kindergarteners. :(

Just watched the President making a statement. He was very emotional and I had tears too, but I am at work, so I can't cry much. My coworkers and I had a brief conversation about it during our lunch break.

skatingfan5
12-14-2012, 08:29 PM
No words (http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/ss-121214-school-shooting-07.ss_full.jpg). :fragile: Prayers for all those children, the families who had their loved ones murdered, the school, and the entire Sandy Hook community.

mkats
12-14-2012, 08:29 PM
Beyond awful. I don't know what to say :(

CNN has a running timeline of school violence, and scrolling through it I learned that Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden, the two boys who were responsible for the 1998 Arkansas shooting, have both been released and Golden tried to apply for a concealed weapons permit under a new name :eek: Thank goodness he was caught and denied.

skipaway
12-14-2012, 08:32 PM
President Obama's statement was very emotional. He had to stop several times and occasionally wiped his eyes. He looked devastated. It's shocking the mass shootings he sited: Connecticutt, Wisconsin, Oregon, Aurora: all in the last 6 months. I will write my Senators and Congressman to address this continuing problem in our country.

Susan1
12-14-2012, 08:33 PM
ArtisticFan, good points about the pressure the news anchors are under. A few times, I've heard their voices shake as if they are trying not to break down but they have to keep it together on the air. I think it's made all the worse by how many young children were taken away from their families.

Whoever the NBC News anchor is, he got choked up talking to some "expert" they were interviewing in the studio, and the President was also wiping away tears as he was speaking. How could you not?

skipaway
12-14-2012, 08:35 PM
Now they're reporting it was not Ryan, but his brother Adam Lanza who is the shooter and the 2 weapons used were his mother's weapons.

Lacey
12-14-2012, 08:37 PM
I have four grandchildren in elementary school, and two more in nursery school, today, OMG. Those poor kids and their parents.

ballettmaus
12-14-2012, 08:38 PM
I wish the news anchors would stop saying how horrible it is right before the holidays. Why do people say that? I've heard that before in other cases. Losing a family member in such a senseless violent way wouldn't be any easier in the middle of the summer. Geez. Maybe they don't mean it that way but it's just bothering me.

It's horrible at any time of the year but I think they say that because Christmas is, even though not intentionally, the time for kids. In my home it was always more or less all about me. My mom was making Christmas presents with me, I had the advent calendar, we were baking cookies... Then Christmas Eve and the two holidays we have afterwards in Germany were all about family. You don't really have that sense of togetherness and family during the rest of the year and I don't think the focus is on the child as much as it is during the holidays during the rest of the year. Whether or not that's right or not is another matter.
The family members who have died so far in my family were most missed during Christmas Eve/the two holidays because the lack of their presence is the most obvious then. They're not there for dinner, you don't have to get gifts (and I'm sure those parents who lost their kids and those who lost their loved ones already had gifts, so that's going to be hard, too), they're just not there when everyone else is physically present.

To me, Christmas is a very special time and instead of celebrating those families will most likely be mouring, or, if they have other children, have a very tuned down Christmas, I would guess.
So, losing the child/family member isn't any harder but I still think it's different because the time is sort of a special time right now.

Anita18
12-14-2012, 08:41 PM
The thing that gets me is that he was such a sniveling piece of cowardly TRASH that he had to have a GUN to go after CHILDREN. When you go after someone with a knife, you have to get close to them, you could get hurt yourself. You can be stopped much more easily by others. And it's more likely you won't kill anyone. The knife attack in China was terrible, but no one died.

Any coward with a gun could go and kill someone. And that's what he was. A big childish coward. Violence does not make you powerful. Violence does not make you a man. It makes you the lowest piece of trash on this earth.

If anything, THAT needs to be the culture we teach our children. Games are one thing, thinking that violence will solve real-world problems are quite another.

milanessa
12-14-2012, 08:45 PM
I agree with balletmaus. It's also likely some of their homes have already been decorated in a festive, happy manner and this time is anything but for them.

Silver Lining
12-14-2012, 08:49 PM
It is worse at Christmas. My mother died unexpectedly just before Christmas when I was 13 and we had to open her presents on Christmas morning. We were finding gifts she had hidden but not yet wrapped for months afterward. These parents probably couldn't wait to see their children's eyes light up on Christmas morning when they saw what Santa brought them and watched them shake the presents under the tree. They will always be reminded of this at this time of year.

Lacey
12-14-2012, 08:50 PM
18 children, six adults, and the perpertrator all dead at the school, so 25 at scene, two children died at hospital, so 27 total, one dead (relative?) at another location in the same town, and one injured at hospital, so 28 grand total and one injured. No mention of NJ?

Sounds like he might have killed a family member (father?, brother?) at home, went to school where his mother was a teacher, killed her and the kids in her kindergarten class. Might not be Ryan Lanza, might be his brother Adam.