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Sylvia
12-17-2012, 11:50 PM
Something to make you smile. :) Children from Newtown with the President
http://sandrarose.com/images17/obama-newtown-children.jpg?42e305
Awwww! (I think the 2 blonde girls are Emilie Parker's younger sisters.)

Another photo from yesterday (scroll down to see President Obama holding Sandy Hook's principal's baby granddaughter): http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Sandy-Hook-principals-Daughter-Tweets-Photo--183799611.html

Anita18
12-17-2012, 11:51 PM
I did hear that the principal had implemented new security measures, but I don't know about shooter drills. Unfortunately, it probably is part of teacher training these days. For students, especially kids that young, I don't know.
When I was in middle school, we had shooter drills. We'd lock the door, turn out the lights, close the blinds, get down low and play games quietly until they told us the drill was over.

AYS
12-18-2012, 12:47 AM
Now that we're hearing all the stories and people are talking about their experience on Friday or about their loved ones, it is so wrenching.

PRlady
12-18-2012, 12:51 AM
Is it legal to buy any sort of gun (semiautomatic, automatic etc.) in American at 18 years old.

It still stuns me that someone can legally by a gun at 18, but can't legally drink alcohol.

I don't think all guns should be banned, but certainly semi-automatic and automatics should, along with some others. Those who feel they want guns, don't need these to protect themselves.

How does one prove ID when buying guns online?

Here's an interesting article: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2012/12/18/05/53/never-turn-your-back-on-lanza

No, the legal age for buying weapons under most circumstances is 21. Most gun buying online still involves going to a gun dealer in your area, showing ID, undergoing a background check -- it's illegal (but probably possible) to do it without these steps. Gun shows are badly regulated because they are "private sellers" -- the big loophole in the Brady Bill, even when the private seller has dozens of guns for sale, but even then ID is necessary.

I visited more than one gun show with a small video camera being used by one of my colleagues. I managed to persuade one seller to sell me a gun that was clearly going to be turned over to my underaged "son" -- actually the nephew of a colleague. I also was not a Virginia resident. There are ways around a lot of the rules if you're persuasive and determined.

shan
12-18-2012, 01:49 AM
We watched the CNN Student News (http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/studentnews/sn-transcript-mon/index.html) today which was devoted to the tragedy. I showed it to 3 diff. classes and teared up each time they showed the names of those lost on Friday. In my classroom of 6-8th graders (who are usually rambunctious), you could have heard a pin drop as the news ended.

smurfy
12-18-2012, 01:51 AM
No, the legal age for buying weapons under most circumstances is 21. Most gun buying online still involves going to a gun dealer in your area, showing ID, undergoing a background check -- it's illegal (but probably possible) to do it without these steps. Gun shows are badly regulated because they are "private sellers" -- the big loophole in the Brady Bill, even when the private seller has dozens of guns for sale, but even then ID is necessary.

I visited more than one gun show with a small video camera being used by one of my colleagues. I managed to persuade one seller to sell me a gun that was clearly going to be turned over to my underaged "son" -- actually the nephew of a colleague. I also was not a Virginia resident. There are ways around a lot of the rules if you're persuasive and determined.

But you can join the military at 18!

Sasha'sSpins
12-18-2012, 02:44 AM
I still can hardly wrap my mind around what has happened. My heart and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones.

I'm actually all for the right to bare arms-but not automatic assault weapons that should only be used by the military in combat and law enforcement. :/

Vash01
12-18-2012, 05:49 AM
It is sad that in these supposedly peaceful days (we are long past WW II), we have to talk about school security. In a free & civilized society no one should be afraid of going to school or to a movie or to a shopping mall or any other public place. Today on our local TV, our governor said that (paraphrasing) we will make sure there is very good security at our schools. Other civilized countries don't feel the need to make their schools into fortresses.

The issue goes way beyond just schools. So many mass shootings are taken as routine. Had it not been for the murder of children that are 6 or 7 years old, I am afraid the reaction may not have been that strong. It shows how deeply ingrained violence is in our culture. It is sad and scary at the same time.

Vash01
12-18-2012, 05:51 AM
Something to make you smile. :) Children from Newtown with the President
http://sandrarose.com/images17/obama-newtown-children.jpg?42e305

It definitely brought a smile to my face. :) Thanks for posting.

Buzz
12-18-2012, 08:21 AM
Something to make you smile. :) Children from Newtown with the President
http://sandrarose.com/images17/obama-newtown-children.jpg?42e305

Didn't Clinton meet JFK in his youth? So perhaps the US got a future president in that photo! :respec:

Jenny
12-18-2012, 02:13 PM
Didn't Clinton meet JFK in his youth? So perhaps the US got a future president in that photo! :respec:

Yes that's a true story - I've seen the footage.

And yes one does hope that good will come of this - that the kids will be inspired by the heroism of their teachers, fellow students and the law enforcement people who came to rescue them, and that families and the community will become stronger.

TheGirlCanSkate
12-18-2012, 03:25 PM
If you have time on your hands the PTA is asking for snowflakes:
http://www.pta.org/parents/content.cfm?ItemNumber=3459&RDtoken=13680&userID=

skipaway
12-18-2012, 03:56 PM
Golden Retrievers Sent to Newtown (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/golden-retrievers-sent-comfort-newtown-survivors-220213316.html)

Susan1
12-18-2012, 04:25 PM
Golden Retrievers Sent to Newtown (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/golden-retrievers-sent-comfort-newtown-survivors-220213316.html)

I've seen this story on all of the news channels now. And it's a wonderful thing if it helps the kids. Then I started worrying about the dogs. I've never seen one wag its tail or pant or show any kind of interest in the people. They just stand there like statues and let people pet and hug them. I know that's their job, but wouldn't a big stuffed animal work just as well. They are sent to sad places. I wonder if they get depressed. I KNOW they are not being abused. Do they get to be "dogs" in their off time?

Sparks
12-18-2012, 04:29 PM
Therapy dogs are trained to be that way. They have the best job in the world, imo. Bringing joy and peace to troubled people, just by being themselves is such a gift.
Yes they get to be 'dogs' too.