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10-29-2012, 04:27 AM
Winnipeg police chief suggests prayer could cut crime (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/winnipeg-police-chief-suggests-prayer-could-cut-crime-1.1007432)

Devon Klunis told a Christian weekly newspaper prayer could play a significant role in building safer communities.

Christian Week quotes Clunis as saying good things could happen if people started praying for peace and acted on those prayers.

Good l/Lord...

An ethics professor at the University of Manitoba says Clunis should not be advocating religion from a public office.

Arthur Schafer says there is no evidence to show that religious countries have lower crime rates.

How about atheist countries having higher crime rates?? :P

And news about the backlash:

Winnipeg’s new police chief’s call for prayer stirs controversy (http://www.troymedia.com/2012/10/28/winnipegs-new-police-chiefs-call-for-prayer-stirs-controversy/)

His comments were celebrated by some, pilloried by others and ridiculed by those who doubt that prayer can stop a bullet or prevent a crime in a city that often has the highest rates in Canada for murder and other violent offences. “Might as well pray, nothing else has worked,” commented one wag on an online forum.

However, the article goes on to say:

What few stopped to consider is that Clunis is advocating something that already happens every day. The work of people who pray has actually done a lot to prevent crime in the worst parts of Winnipeg and many other Canadian cities.

As Clunis knows well, he only has to stroll a block or two from his downtown office to see religious groups do important work in the fight against crime.

Nearby at the Siloam Mission, a mission of the evangelical Christian Church of the Nazarene, hundreds of homeless people are provided with food, clothing and shelter daily, giving them an option other than begging or stealing...

More examples of religious groups doing work to make the lives of disenfranchised people better follow.

So what are your thoughts? This is an issue in my community as there is a backlash against those who are homeless and/or with mental health issues and/or have drug dependency issues. The most visible organization here working to bring about positive change for these people is The Salvation Army. A lot of the criticism is aimed at this organization in that it is felt they should move elsewhere. A NIMBY (not in my back yard) scenario. Like this organization should move into the industrial area (which would not be easily accessible to the people they are trying to serve). And I doubt the warehouse owners and workers want this in their area either. It's very frustrating to read about the negative views some people have, so insensitive to those who have led such horrible lives. All the while saying, "I'm not a heartless person!" (Umm...kinda sounds like it...) :shuffle: Maybe I should start praying for these NIMBY'ers! :lol:

10-29-2012, 05:06 AM
Judging by what I've heard about downtown Winnipeg in the last few years...I'm not sure there's enough prayer in the world to clean that mess up.

10-29-2012, 05:31 AM
I think I'll pray for a new Police Chief instead.

10-29-2012, 12:54 PM
[URL="http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/winnipeg-police-chief-suggests-prayer-could-cut-crime-1.1007432"] Maybe I should start praying for these NIMBY'ers! :lol:

Maybe you should. :) As you say, a lot of the people trying to help are people of prayer. They'd probably love it if you'd pray for a more positive community attitude toward their work!

10-29-2012, 01:21 PM
What a coincidence, PeterG. I just had a brief conversation with a colleague regarding homeless people and social welfare today!

Yeah, “I am not heartless” BUT not in my backyard. Sadly, people think that by moving the institution (Salvation Army) somewhere else, it’s out of sight, out of mind.

I believe religious organisations have a place in helping the disenfranchised. I have seen how someone I know who suffers from depression but found his usefulness and place by doing church work. I have seen how smaller religious organisations reached out to the youths by engaging them in useful activities. Temples with a small portion of the building dedicated to housing the aged. Of course, it may incur concerns that such activities seek to convert the disenfranchised, but in all practicality, if this helps them to gain their confidence and place in the real world, why not? The means are harmless and the goal is achieved.

Rather than sweeping the problem under the carpet, community should get together and make the politicians do something about it. A national policy and approach towards reducing homelessness and finding cures to the root of its problem may sound enormous but if there is no plan, there will be no implementation and monies committed to it. Does Canada have a national policy on the disenfranchised and homeless?