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Cherub721
10-26-2012, 05:08 PM
So she thinks the first lift might be illegal, like the original goose?

Golightly
10-26-2012, 05:09 PM
Oh, THAT. Yes, I saw that on Tumblr too. The poster, who referred to them as "Voir" put an NC-17 tag on their post. It was silly, really. This is why I said yesterday that we should try not to over-sexualize it, that's exactly what others are saying.

VarBar
10-26-2012, 05:13 PM
I think they'll be fine with the judges. Much has been made out of that opening bit of choreography, but really, the hands stay on their upper thighs.

Don't understand what the problem is here, V/M can easily remove the hand action if the judges let them know that move is too explicit for their taste. Tessa and Scott will be getting feedback from the official judges at several competitions from now to Worlds and they'll have plenty of time to make adjustments if need be.

bmcg
10-26-2012, 05:13 PM
Well anyone who uses names like Voir and Marlie should not be taken seriously :D

Golightly
10-26-2012, 05:26 PM
True. What is it with people and portmanteaus? (Is that the plural of portmanteau? :D )

Shayii
10-26-2012, 05:30 PM
Well anyone who uses names like Voir and Marlie should not be taken seriously :D

+1

I hate those monikers so much!

Subway
10-26-2012, 05:31 PM
Scott's hand placement has been there many times in the past for various lifts, such as the one where she is horizontal and her hand grips his skate boot. Would mere intention make the move OTT? In the lift, it's technique. This changes when it's choreography?

professordeb
10-26-2012, 05:36 PM
Oh, THAT. Yes, I saw that on Tumblr too. The poster, who referred to them as "Voir" put an NC-17 tag on their post. It was silly, really. This is why I said yesterday that we should try not to over-sexualize it, that's exactly what others are saying.

OK, now I'd like to see this Tumblr stuff too. Would anyone be so kind as to provide a link to said site, please?

bmcg
10-26-2012, 05:37 PM
The following movementsand/or poses during the lift are illegal:
 Lifting hand(s) of the lifting partner higher than his head*;
 Lying or sitting on the partner’s head;
 Sitting or standing on the partner’s shoulder, back;
 Lifting partner swinging the lifted partner around by holding the skate(s)/boot(s) or leg(s) only
with fully extended arm(s) or by holding the hand(s) with full arm extension by both partners;
 Lifted partner in upside down split pose (with sustained angle between thighs more than 45
degrees)**;
* It is not considered as an Illegal Lift Movement/Pose if:
• the point of contact of the lifting hand/arm of the lifting partner with any part of the body of
the lifted partner is not sustained higher than the lifting partner’s head;
• the lifting hand/arm which is used for support or balancing only or which touches any part
of the body of the lifted partner is not sustained by the lifting partner higher than his head
for more than 2 seconds.
** A brief movement through an upside down split pose (with any angle between thighs) will be
permitted if it is not established (sustained) or if it is used only to change pose.

I think it is fine. His right hand is in that position for a fraction of a second.

pani
10-26-2012, 05:40 PM
OMG. Why did you post this?
Could we kust ignore this? Look like this is Aunt Jones.

Cherub721
10-26-2012, 05:46 PM
True. What is it with people and portmanteaus? (Is that the plural of portmanteau? :D )

I like them when they flow together and also make sense... like Loverbukhs for Lobacheva & Averbukh when they were still married. Voir and Marlie just sound awful.

Sahararainfall
10-26-2012, 05:46 PM
The lift was around 00:58 seconds from the vid, very brief. So I think that lift is safe. Hope so anyway.


+1

I hate those monikers so much!

:lol: So these monikers are a no-no in figure skating? They are staple in the internet shipping language.

As for the FD possibly getting some sort of censorship, I don't know this is just ridiculous. I know people have very different levels of taste for this kind of things but seriously the FD is tame compared to what's in the TV sometimes. But then again I'm a Shakira fan and spend lots of times explaining to people the difference between sensual and sexual so maybe my views shouldn't be trusted. This initial reaction would probably die down after a while once serious competition starts. At least it did with me once I got over the initial shock.

bmcg
10-26-2012, 05:49 PM
OMG. Why did you post this?
Could we kust ignore this? Look like this is Aunt Jones.

Are you talking about my post about lift rules?

If it's the other stuff I agree, ignore it.

Shayii
10-26-2012, 05:50 PM
OMG. Why did you post this?
Could we kust ignore this? Look like this is Aunt Jones.
:confused:

sap5
10-26-2012, 05:51 PM
Are you talking about my post about lift rules?

If it's the other stuff I agree, ignore it.

I can't figure out what anyone is talking about on this thread.