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10-22-2012, 06:30 PM
Only one US man at Skate Canada? That doesn't make sense.

10-22-2012, 06:40 PM
Luck of the draw. There was only one Canadian ice dance team at Skate America (W/P), with no Canadians in any other discipline...

10-22-2012, 08:42 PM
At this point, I think Max Aaron (despite the fact he can land quads) is weak in presentation skills. Also, IMO, the guys who have more international experience, who are able to compete well at Nationals and who also do well on the GP have a better chance of placing in the top two at Nats, including Evan, if he's able to come back; Jeremy (if he recovers from poor SA performance); Johnny; Richard; Ross; Adam. There are only 3 podium spots, so a lot of guys won't be on it.

From a personal standpoint, I agree about Aaron, but his PCS at US Classic and the Nationals SP last season were certainly strong enough to keep him in the mix for medals and world team spots, and his technical abilities help make up for this a little bit already. I do hope that USFS sticks to marking the skaters PCS-wise similarly to how they are internationally though, as someone like Razzano really shouldn't be placing top 5 at Nationals considering his international scores, and while Armin's improved a lot and could still be on the team if he hits his quads and skates really well, the across the board 6 range PCS he got at SA should not go unnoticed. I'll be curious to see how Dornbush is marked at his GP events, PCS at Finlandia were high, but last season on the GP, they generally weren't that strong, so it will be interesting to see if they vary.

10-23-2012, 12:44 AM
Anyone heard how Nathan Chen is doing?

10-23-2012, 02:55 AM
Luck of the draw. There was only one Canadian ice dance team at Skate America (W/P), with no Canadians in any other discipline...
Dube/Wolfe were in the original Pairs selection, but they withdrew due to injury. Moore-Towers/Moskovitch, Duhamel/Radford, and Lawrence/Swiegers already had two initial selections, and the only other Senior Pairs who had the GP minimum score split. (The rest remained Juniors.) They didn't send anyone to any Fall Senior International to make the score with a provisional assignment -- the only teams they sent any Fall Senior B were L/S and M-T/M to Salt Lake City, who already had them -- and they put their third Pairs spot back in the pool.

Same for Ladies, except they sent Osmond and Lacoste to separate Senior B's.

I'm somewhat surprised they didn't push for a second for Rogozine at Skate America or another GP, but he's been inconsistent.

10-23-2012, 01:50 PM
Weir too from Finlandia (69.03 SP, 132.39 FP).

Weir's TES scores at Filandia were 31.94 for the SP, and 56.65 for the FS; therefore, he has earned the minimum TES for 4CC but not for the WC.

10-23-2012, 01:56 PM
I've edited my post #145 above to add Weir's name to the 4CC minimums list.

10-24-2012, 09:25 PM
After seeing Armin skate live at Skate America this past weekend I have to say he's a threat to Jeremy Abbott for gold, at least silver if he hits.

His Led Zeppelin SP is my favorite of all the men, not just the Americans, but internationally as well.

10-25-2012, 12:47 AM
^^ I love Armin too and I will be happy to see him have a great season. However, there are lots of challengers for the American crown, and so all Armin can try to do is his best and let the chips fall where they may without putting extra pressure on himself. That's obviously what all the competitors know they need to do: work on what is in front of them rather than worrying about what others are doing.

I will try to enjoy all the skaters I love w/o getting too attached to the idea of who might win or not (easier said than done ;)). Anything is possible, but if all competitors skate their absolute best, then those with greater senior international experience and so-called "reputation" will have the edge, IMO.

10-25-2012, 03:56 AM
Obviously a lot can change in the coming months, but what a disaster for USFSA :wideeyes: Not one man was a able to medal at SA! :o

If Ross medals at SC, it would do him a world of good.

Right now both Richard and Johnny look pretty good to me. If we could grade their outings...

Richard = A

Johnny = -B

Jeremy= D

Armin= F

Razzano= -F :P

10-25-2012, 07:23 AM
I would have given Johnny a lot lower than a -B tbh...

10-25-2012, 07:46 AM
Why that is completely shocking from you, misskarne :rofl: :rolleyes: :blah:

10-25-2012, 09:32 AM

10-25-2012, 01:40 PM
^I think Johnny is fine w/ a B-. He hasn't competed since Vancouver and the fact he was landing the 4T (albeit UR) and 3x in a serious comp early in the season is good news to me.

10-25-2012, 03:50 PM
Armin and Doug both had better showings at SA than Jeremy IMO, taking into consideration what they are capable of. I'd give Armin a B and Doug a C, keeping Jeremy at D.