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aftershocks
10-15-2012, 08:11 PM
^^ And now, you forgot someone too ;) Ashley Wagner!

pinky166
10-15-2012, 09:50 PM
^^ And now, you forgot someone too ;) Ashley Wagner!

Yes but there need to be two ladies "stars" because we're going to have at least 2 ladies spots at the Olympics.... I didn't forget Ashley, she's the one to beat right now!

jlai
10-16-2012, 01:38 AM
As far as in Jeremy's case, I don't think he suffers from a lack of technique, and so far he has seemed to be in fairly good health physically (:saint:), his personal life seems fine, as far as whether he's competing for the right reasons, you may be on to something there; as far as right seasons, yeah let's hope so! ;)

I'm not sure about Jeremy's "personality" not being naturally competitive, especially after he's competed these many years with a large degree of success.

How do you know his personal life is fine? :P (not saying it's not)

If you read the articles around 2009-10, there were open discussions as to what he needed to do to mature as a skater and person. The pre-Olympic analyses at the time were also pretty spot on too.

Anyway, I don't agree with "competed these many years with a large degree of success". He started skating when he was about 5, but he didn't really medal in anything major until 19 years old, when he won jr men's at nationals. His first international success didn't come until age 21. Everything took him a while. I wish he had more time :( .

As far as confidence goes, I would say he often lacks confidence in the quad, so that's often the first jump to go wrong when he is nervous (Used to be the 3A).

centerpt1
10-16-2012, 02:00 AM
He started skating when he was about 5, but he didn't really medal in anything major until 19 years old, when he won jr men's at nationals. His first international success didn't come until age 21. Everything took him a while. I wish he had more time :( .

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I wish he had more time, too. :(

I wish he had a World medal,,,but if it's not to be, it's not to be. Four US titles (incl the Jr one), the GP and 4CC medals are something he can always be proud of. He fought hard and did well for himself.

It just seems he has had more to overcome than most. He has great talent, musicality, creativity and drive. He just has a traitorous nervous system.

aftershocks
10-16-2012, 02:13 AM
Yes, okay, jlai, AFAIK from afar, Jeremy's personal life appears to be fine in terms of family love and support and friendships (public ones at least). Since his life is focused around skating, I'm not sure how much of a "personal life" he has time for anyway. He seems to enjoy tweeting, and he seems to be a fun, goofy, sweet guy to be around. He's an uber-talented figure skater, he often cuts his own music, and did I say I think he's an absolutely fabulous skater!

Yes, true that success in skating did not come fast or easy for Jeremy, and he has experienced inconsistencies in competition. I hope he is able to find the key to controlling his mental jitters and simply enjoy skating this season. Love his new programs!

Manleywoman has a skatecast interview with Jeremy's mother, Allison Scott, which is very revealing.

Jeremy has an excellent quad when all goes well for him going into it. I don't think he lacks anymore "confidence" in his quad than does anyone else who is trying to master quads consistently. I'm also not certain that it is specific jumps that "go wrong" for Jeremy when he gets nervous. Probably depends more on where he is in a program when he loses focus, or begins thinking too much.

Wishing Jeremy success this season. Whether or not "pigs fly," Jeremy is always a joy to watch.

feraina
10-16-2012, 02:16 AM
Some interesting information about Osgood-Schlatter disease. It's from Wikipedia so take it for what it's worth -
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It sounds like Nathan's next challenge will be to find a balance in training to avoid injury as he grows.

Oh, shoot. It sounds exactly like what Sui (as in Sui/Han) has, and he's even younger than Sui! It's possible that neither of them will be healthy enough to train/compete again until their bone structure completely matures. Yikes!

At least it doesn't say Nathan has O-S "disease" though, just says he has O-S "pain"... Fingers crossed for Nathan!

kwanfan1818
10-21-2012, 06:22 PM
At Skate America, Armin Mahbanoozadeh has made the Worlds TES minimums for both the SP and FS. Douglas Razzano has made the Worlds minimum in the FS and the Euros/4C's minimum in the SP.

pinky166
10-21-2012, 09:03 PM
At Skate America, Armin Mahbanoozadeh has made the Worlds TES minimums for both the SP and FS. Douglas Razzano has made the Worlds minimum in the FS and the Euros/4C's minimum in the SP.

Happy Armin met the minimums, but his overall score/placement here, while by no means disastorous, are unlikely to help his case for making the World team or getting GP assignments next season, which is sad, because we know he can do much better. Hope his ankle is ok!

johndockley92
10-22-2012, 01:13 PM
Is David Wang competing this year?

How about TJ Yang?? Anyone heard from him lately?

Sylvia
10-22-2012, 02:06 PM
Neither David Wang (J11 at 2012 Nationals) nor Kevin Shum (N4), both of whom are listed in the ISP, have competed this year due to injury and neither registered for Regionals.


At Skate America, ... Douglas Razzano has made the Worlds minimum in the FS and the Euros/4C's minimum in the SP.
Razzano has another shot to make the Worlds SP minimum at the Ice Challenge Senior B next month.

Already met the TES minimums for Worlds (SP 35, FS 65) & Four Continents (SP 25, FS 45) in both segments last season or so far this season:
Abbott, Rippon, Miner, Mahbanoozadeh, Carriere, Messing, Aaron, Dornbush, Brown, Farris.
Four Continents minimums met in both segments/Worlds minimum met in 1 segment this season or last: Hochstein and Mroz (SP only); Razzano and Dolensky (FS only).
Four Continents minimums met in both segments this season or last: Cassar, Choate, Warren, Weir.

ETA: Lysacek reportedly is hoping/planning to compete in a Senior B before Nationals to achieve the minimum scores for Worlds.

ETA #2: Nathan Chen met the Worlds minimum scores at his JGP in Austria, but he won't be age-eligible for Four Continents/Worlds until the 2014-15 season.

Sk8tn
10-22-2012, 03:41 PM
Weir too from Finlandia (69.03 SP, 132.39 FP).

pinky166
10-22-2012, 03:45 PM
Things looking really good for Dornbush at this point. Max Aaron too. I could definitely see both those two on the podium at Nationals this season, and wouldn't be surprised if Johnny and/or Jeremy were not on it.

aftershocks
10-22-2012, 05:48 PM
At this point, I think Max Aaron (despite the fact he can land quads) is weak in presentation skills. Also, IMO, the guys who have more international experience, who are able to compete well at Nationals and who also do well on the GP have a better chance of placing in the top two at Nats, including Evan, if he's able to come back; Jeremy (if he recovers from poor SA performance); Johnny; Richard; Ross; Adam. There are only 3 podium spots, so a lot of guys won't be on it.

merrywidow
10-22-2012, 06:07 PM
Things looking really good for Dornbush at this point. Max Aaron too. I could definitely see both those two on the podium at Nationals this season, and wouldn't be surprised if Johnny and/or Jeremy were not on it.

ITA pinky166. It's time to look at the boys with the most consistent quads. As to Abbott, Lysacek, & Weir, as much as I hate to say this, they are the past & I don't see them making the World team in 2013.

Sylvia
10-22-2012, 06:24 PM
Replying to your post in this relevant thread:

Looking forward to seeing Ross & Adam in their GP events & pulling for Max & Stephen this weekend at Coup de Nice.
Max Aaron and Keegan Messing are competing at Cup of Nice this week; Ross Miner is the lone U.S. guy at Skate Canada.

BTW, there are 4 podium spots at Nationals (pewter medal for 4th place).