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zotza
10-28-2012, 11:50 AM
Unfortunately Monko/Khaliavin are not doing that well and I honestly don't expect them to do better at this point.She looks bigger than him,and maybe they're not so easy to work with and has fast results,especially with the current rules in ice dancing.
And I didn't like all the talk especially in Russian forums about how they're better than B/S and at least equal.I guess they have a lot of friends,but instead of their fans whining all over the net they should see at the eye of the problem.
I'm not sure she's taller than him,but Denkova/Stavisky didn't have a height difference and still managed to be as good as they were with tonz of hard work.And I'm not even a fan,by a longshot.
At this point and after seeing R/T last night...Maybe Sinitsina/Zhiganzin will get the third place in the team.I was completely disappointed by R/T.I don't know what's wrong,they're good individual skaters,but when you skate to the Godfather you can't act pretty,as Ilia did and you can't beautify like this all your moves.Katia was always my problem in the team,but last night I actually saw glimpses of that Katia who was skating with Guerreiro.

love_skate2011
10-28-2012, 05:04 PM
I don't think Sinitsina/Zhiganshin can become Russian No.3 this season R/T will still be on same position and they medaled in the GP
I hope S/Z leave Kustarova and Alexeeva soon

Polina K.'s Long Program: , she won Cup of Nice :cheer2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1CWUWtHLVQ&feature=plcp

Vash01
10-28-2012, 05:51 PM
I think, though, that the difference is that Plushy believes it. He knows he is great, he knows he is a fantastic skater, he truly believes in his own skating and his own worth. Artur tries to talk the talk like Plushy does, but I don't think he believes it. I don't think he really believes that he is so wonderful, I don't think he really believes in himself.

It makes me sad, because he is such a wonderful skater. :(

Well said. An athlete has to truly believe it in his/her heart. Words don't mean a thing if you don't believe them.

MissIzzy
10-28-2012, 06:43 PM
Ksenia Makarova just shown on NBC right now and even only seeing part of her long I'm so sad. I'd much rather see that program at Worlds than Sotnikova's, but what are the chances of it happening? :fragile:

caseyedwards
10-28-2012, 06:46 PM
Ksenia Makarova just shown on NBC right now and even only seeing part of her long I'm so sad. I'd much rather see that program at Worlds than Sotnikova's, but what are the chances of it happening? :fragile:

Less than 50%. Makarova can get good sp scores and sometimes it is surprising how much that helps her considering her free skate involves loops, toes, and salchows for triples!

kwanfan1818
10-28-2012, 07:15 PM
Gachinsky's had the pressure on him since he was 11 or 12 to be the next Plushenko, at a time when there was a talent gap due to the collapse of the post-Soviet development system.

rfisher
10-28-2012, 08:14 PM
Artur has the talent, but he's missing the fire. Mishin can't teach that. A skater has it or they don't. They've already withdrawn him from his next event. I'm assuming they'll cite injury, but they have bigger issues to solve. I feel sorry for him because it must be frustrating.

Tuk has the determination to succeed and did very well coming off an injury and being in the middle of a growth spurt. It's so easy to forget how young she and Adelina are and to picture where they will be by 2018. Experience and maturity can make great results. Kostner is proof.

love_skate2011
10-28-2012, 08:28 PM
Artur has the talent, but he's missing the fire. Mishin can't teach that. A skater has it or they don't. They've already withdrawn him from his next event. I'm assuming they'll cite injury, but they have bigger issues to solve. I feel sorry for him because it must be frustrating.

Tuk has the determination to succeed and did very well coming off an injury and being in the middle of a growth spurt. It's so easy to forget how young she and Adelina are and to picture where they will be by 2018. Experience and maturity can make great results. Kostner is proof.

agreed after Liza had her disaster SP, she went on to fight on her FS, her look after her FS says it all she was satisfied and determined.

Artur withdrew from his next GP ?, well there is definitely an alarm when you get beaten by a Vornov and Menshov in national competitions
and your score cant even reach 200 points.

Plushy has all their bullets now though I hope they pass some maybe to Kovtun ?

caseyedwards
10-28-2012, 09:05 PM
I thought he should WD because the skater who placed 2nd at Euros is not who has been skating for the last 2 months or even before that at worlds is Nice.

I guess Kovtun is going to be like Makarova do JrGP and then go Senior. She went from JRGP to Russian Champion to the Olympics to final group at worlds.

Moka-Ananas
10-29-2012, 02:13 AM
Kovtun has the best chances to become Russia's #2 atm since Gachinski is struggling so much. I feel really sorry for Artur :(

lulu
10-29-2012, 02:16 AM
Gachinsky's had the pressure on him since he was 11 or 12 to be the next Plushenko, at a time when there was a talent gap due to the collapse of the post-Soviet development system.

Good point, that is a lot of pressure for anyone to be under. :( Anyway, it is still the beginning of the season...

misskarne
10-29-2012, 03:58 AM
Gachinsky's had the pressure on him since he was 11 or 12 to be the next Plushenko, at a time when there was a talent gap due to the collapse of the post-Soviet development system.

:( I can't even begin to imagine the pressure. Being constantly told that you have to be the next Plushenko, that you have to save the glory of the sport in Russia, then winning a bronze Worlds medal your first senior season...it's unsurprising that he might have been crushed under the weight of expectation. But still very sad.


Artur has the talent, but he's missing the fire. Mishin can't teach that. A skater has it or they don't. They've already withdrawn him from his next event. I'm assuming they'll cite injury, but they have bigger issues to solve. I feel sorry for him because it must be frustrating.


I don't think Artur is missing the fire. I just don't think he's able to use it because he's constantly looking over his shoulder, constantly hearing about PlushenkoPlushenkoPlushenko, "Plushenko would do this", "You have to be the next Plushenko" etc etc. He idolises Plushenko but I don't think he's quite got a grip on seperating that idolisation and the pressure to be him, and how to be his own skater and skate for himself.

Artur has been withdrawn from CoR? I had heard he has a back injury (which would explain the god-awful catch-foot position, I know he's capable of a much nicer one than that), but I can't imagine yanking him from his next GP is such a good idea in terms of his confidence. But then again, too, his next GP was in Russia, where I can imagine he would be under one heck of a microscope.

Sylvia
10-29-2012, 03:56 PM
Gachinski is still listed for Rostelecom Cup on the ISU site; Artur Dmitriev has withdrawn from Cup of China (would have been his GP debut).

julieann
10-29-2012, 05:28 PM
Petaikina and Bezmaternikh won the third stage of the Russian Cup in Samara. The most interesting thing about the competition was who they beat. I hope Bezmaternikh found a partner he can have success with.

1. Petaikina/Konstantin Bezmaternikh - 157.17
2. Martyusheva/Rogonov - 154.70

Coco
10-29-2012, 08:02 PM
Liza is the most introverted competitor/performer I've ever seen. Not sure this trait can be undone.