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DORISPULASKI
10-21-2012, 06:43 PM
For these complaining about the judges seeing B&S's progress, check out the protocols. Concentrate on the TES:
They got 4 of 6 key points on the Yankee Polka.
They got level 3 on the steps.
And this is the beginning of the year.
Last year at Worlds in the SD, they got only level 2 on their step (which is pretty much what they got all year)
and only 3 of 6 key points on the rhumba
Both times, the twizzles were only level 3.

So they are starting this year on the technical side ahead of where they finished last year.
I call that progress for sure.
I'll bet their PCS go up at their next outing at CoC, and they may challenge Pechalat & Bourzat there!

love_skate2011
10-21-2012, 06:53 PM
I wanted Elena/Nikita to solidify as Russia's no. 1, but that hideous OTT FD, is just soo....
I guess B/S could still lead and stay at the top as Russian No. 1, I will have to look more on Stepanova/Bukin next season

Proustable
10-21-2012, 08:00 PM
So they are starting this year on the technical side ahead of where they finished last year.
I call that progress for sure.
I'll bet their PCS go up at their next outing at CoC, and they may challenge Pechalat & Bourzat there!

W/P are also at China, so it should be interesting.

Macassar88
10-21-2012, 09:20 PM
Bobrova and Soloviev win silver at Skate America!!!
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpusa2012/gpusa2012_IceDance_FD_Scores.pdf
Protocols -
Bobrova and Soloviev had the highest tech base value!!! :lol:

casken
10-22-2012, 04:21 AM
I just posted my disbelief and disgust over I&K's programs in another thread but I'll take it here.

The ridiculousness of the FD has been pretty well covered, but the SD...


No, Andijan Polka is Uzbek music - it's a little similar to Indian style dancing, but not quite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmuRmq17oG4

It really doesn't matter what the music/style is when all the choreography happens while standing in place, and the rest of the program is just them skating around without any attention to the music. There was nothing choreographically going on between the twzzles and the sbs sequence.


B&S fans should thank Morozov very much for these craptastic programs for I&K.

For real though. I just got done criticizing it, but B&S's porgram is a masterpiece compared to this crap.


LOL yeah great improvement from B/S but no placement improvement as of yet. Need to beat W/P in the FD. Show placement improvement ability.

You were saying. :P

misskarne
10-22-2012, 05:05 AM
After the splat-fest that was Skate America, I'm just a little nervous for Artur at Skate Canada this week...come on boy, cause an upset, I know you can.

dinakt
10-22-2012, 07:01 AM
I/K FD. I find it almost unwatchable. What is Morozov doing with people whom I considered absolute stars just over a year ago... In a recent interview, though, they said that the muisc for their FD is being written; so i assume they are doing the same trick as last year and skating to a different music in competitions. Or so I hope. Morozov must be tone- deaf, and if they do not change music for smth. better I'll be watching I/K on mute.

Jemestone
10-22-2012, 07:12 AM
Here's a better video of I/K's FD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClJIXvhTTwI&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Also a better video of their SD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNwpKZi7WEw&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

caseyedwards
10-22-2012, 08:18 AM
You were saying. :P

They had placement improvement- good start


After the splat-fest that was Skate America, I'm just a little nervous for Artur at Skate Canada this week...come on boy, cause an upset, I know you can.

He was weak at the sochi test event hopefully he will be together and outdo menshov's fourth place- which would be his best showing at a gp I think.

Macassar88
10-22-2012, 10:25 AM
Also had a tech score increase - similar GOE (slightly higher) than WP and much higher base value
Still being held down slightly in PCS IMO.

They had placement improvement- good start



He was weak at the sochi test event hopefully he will be together and outdo menshov's fourth place- which would be his best showing at a gp I think.

Marco
10-22-2012, 11:19 AM
I hate that Sotnikova lost the silver due to the rules :mad:


The Fed must give them proper coaching on this so that she wouldn't become the female Oda :slinkaway

pinky166
10-22-2012, 03:22 PM
I hate that Sotnikova lost the silver due to the rules :mad:


The Fed must give them proper coaching on this so that she wouldn't become the female Oda :slinkaway

I actually think she may not have necessarily beaten Christina has she done a solo 3lo, which has a BV of 5.61 after the halfway point, which is very close to what Christina beat her by, meaning depending on GOE, Christina could have still ended up ahead of Adelina. Adelina likely would have edged her out, but looking at numbers, the result would have been veryyy close indeed.

Evilynn
10-22-2012, 03:25 PM
:fragile: I can't believe it is Ghost the Musical. I had myself convinced that it was Ghost (that other movie w/ the Desplat soundtrack). I mean who would pick this for a program?????? Oh dear, they just continue to struggle to get it right. The SD will be a change from perky polkas, but that FD :scream:

I can't believe it's Ghost the Musical either, and that they used those parts. What the heck was Morozov smoking when he decided to use the Ghost-Dude-Gets-Shot scene, complete with dialogue? :yikes:

Cherub721
10-22-2012, 03:59 PM
Just noticed Jemestone's location... is it really true that Berezhnaya is coaching now? That is so cool! Is it in Moskvina's group?

TAHbKA
10-22-2012, 04:24 PM
Just noticed Jemestone's location... is it really true that Berezhnaya is coaching now? That is so cool! Is it in Moskvina's group?

Yes