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love_skate2011
09-13-2012, 09:53 AM
Gerboldt/Enbert will not participate any competitions in 2012 (http://www.rsport.ru/figure_skating/20120913/616447081.html)
Simonenko reports: Gerboldt tore a ligament when practicing throw 3 jump. They withdrew from GP and Moskvina reckons Gerboldt won't recover in time for the Russian nationals. Enbert keeps practicing. Gerboldt resumed her practices off the ice on one foot only this week. Their programmes are ready with Zhulin choreographing the SP and Averbukh the LP/

aww that's so bad, I thought it will just take a few weeks to heal :(
I'm not a G/E fan but hope at least she has a quick recovery same for Sui

with them almost likely not competing also at nationals ?
I think top pairs competing to be ranked on top 7 spot will between
Volosozhar/Trankov, Kavaguti/Smirnov, Bazarova/Larionov, Stolbova/Klimov,
Davankova/Deputat, Martiusheva/Rogonov and Tarasova/Morozov

viviabond
09-13-2012, 10:01 AM
Tarasova/Morozov have nice twizzle, but they still throw double loop

Moka-Ananas
09-13-2012, 10:21 AM
Gerboldt/Enbert will not participate any competitions in 2012 (http://www.rsport.ru/figure_skating/20120913/616447081.html)
Simonenko reports: Gerboldt tore a ligament when practicing throw 3 jump. They withdrew from GP and Moskvina reckons Gerboldt won't recover in time for the Russian nationals. Enbert keeps practicing. Gerboldt resumed her practices off the ice on one foot only this week. Their programmes are ready with Zhulin choreographing the SP and Averbukh the LP/

Considering their decline last season and sitting out this one entirely I have the impression they are pretty much done.

Andrey aka Pushkin
09-13-2012, 10:59 AM
Some constructive input from me: Makarova as a brunette looks like Johnny Wier.

casken
09-13-2012, 11:31 AM
Thanks for all the links! Love_Skate too - a BIG Thank you!!!
R/T - This could be my favorite FD of the season. Loved the way the choreo actually reflected the music all the way through [B/S too] - this is really rare to see in Dance these days. With more practice again this could be great. Did Sphilband do this??? If so, why the hell was he hiding behind Marina all these years???!!

Just watched them, and even though I think the program is a bit :blah:, they've clearly improved technically and they look way more ready for the season here than they did at the test skates last season. The twizzles, footwork sequences, and lifts all look more snappy and secure than last year for sure. Shpilband's work is apparent there.

I just wish they had a more unique FD to show off their strengths.

analia
09-13-2012, 11:48 AM
Where is I/K?

laire
09-13-2012, 12:05 PM
Where is I/K?

Elena injured her shoulder this summer, still recovering. They promised to be ready for COR.

Macassar88
09-13-2012, 12:43 PM
That's a good example of how I think some of their strengths have actually been lost in the transition. They always had one of the lovelier dance spins becuase of the quality of her positions and the smoothness and finish of of the transitions between the positions. The positions in this one are just ok, it looks slow, and it's poorly placed in the program.

Also, wasn't there a recent rule that says FDs should not be so obtuse in concept that they need and explanation? Because this FD, especially with that ending, does.

Well she never actually did those two positions in the same spin. Once she got the perfect Donut Kustarova went and ruined it by taking out the layback and giving her that awful biellman position that she can't hit.
And I think that the spin will look better eventually. She dropped her boot and it was probably a fluke rather than a choreographed thing.

Macassar88
09-13-2012, 12:44 PM
Just watched them, and even though I think the program is a bit :blah:, they've clearly improved technically and they look way more ready for the season here than they did at the test skates last season. The twizzles, footwork sequences, and lifts all look more snappy and secure than last year for sure. Shpilband's work is apparent there.

I just wish they had a more unique FD to show off their strengths.

Like doing Pink Floyd?

Macassar88
09-13-2012, 12:45 PM
Also, are Kavaguti and Smirnov really reusing their awful olympic fs music?!?

TAHbKA
09-13-2012, 01:04 PM
Find 10 differences
cats programme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAQgJnAiR4M&feature=player_embedded) , waltz programme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoPHLLNiNo&list=UUjaUiznBS9O3SeqwqlIc4UQ&index=13&feature=plcp)

is it just me or they are pulling Kwan and skating the same programme to two different playbacks?

Macassar88
09-13-2012, 01:22 PM
Another thing, Zhulin gave both BS and MK the same lift... That's a major choreographic no no. Look at Bobrova and Soloviev's first lift and compare it to Monko and Khaliavin's SD lift.

Anyway I love the two different parts of Bobrova and Soloviev's free dance I just don't think they make sense together. Although none of that matters as long as they get their levels.

Also, the goodthing about Kavaguti and SMirnov not doing cats is that we won't have to hear commentators joke about her cat like reflexes or landing like a cat every time they perform

ostile17
09-13-2012, 01:33 PM
B/S FD screams Pethukov to me. Didn't he join Zhulin's team? I see lots of Domshabs moves here and the style reminds me a lot of Pethukov's work. Anyway, the first part seems promising, but after that, as someone else pointed out already, it turns into a hot mess.
What happened to their lines, anyway??

iris81
09-13-2012, 01:47 PM
Another thing, Zhulin gave both BS and MK the same lift... That's a major choreographic no no. Look at Bobrova and Soloviev's first lift and compare it to Monko and Khaliavin's SD lift.

Yes, you are right. I also rewatched Zlobina-Sitnikov FD, and they also have this lift :D

kirkbiggestfan
09-13-2012, 01:47 PM
I want to see Smirnov in a cat outfit!!! We were robbed. (I guess I should display my fantasies in public)