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Sylvia
09-07-2012, 06:16 PM
... and also 2 new quads (Salchow and flip).

Canadian Press article by Lori Ewing: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/chan-embarks-on-season-with-new-coach-choreographers-and-two-new-programs/article4524866/

Chan is coached by modern dance teacher Kathy Johnson, who had been assuming a larger role with the Canadian skating star last season. With Johnson, Chan said he’s able to take on more responsibility for his training.
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Chan has also split with longtime choreographer Lori Nichol. His new short program, to music by Rachmaninoff [Elegie in E-flat minor], was choreographed by former world champion Jeff Buttle while David Wilson choreographed his long program, to Italian opera “La Boheme.”

“It was a good change after five years of working with Lori. We left on mutual terms, she’s always there to help me,” Chan said. “But I wanted to do this, and I thought this was the right time going into Sochi. I wanted to know that I could work with other choreographers, that it doesn’t have to be one singular recipe.”

This Chan interview video includes a snippet from Chan's SP (his Rachmininoff "Elegie" exhibition turned into a SP): http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/sports-video/video-patrick-chan-happy-with-coaching-changes/article4525358/

Hamilton Spectator article on Chan by Steve Milton: http://www.thespec.com/sports/article/794049--chan-hopes-to-add-more-quad-jumps-to-his-repertoire

“Definitely it’s going to be higher,” Chan says of the technical level in Sochi. “Compared to Vancouver, for sure. We’re getting used to the new system and starting to push the envelope, building stamina to add a bit more to it.

“I can see some other skaters doing different quads than toe and Sal.”

And so he wants to be ready. He’ll do the flips and Salchows in practices on the Grand Prix circuit — a big step because judges and other skaters are watching every single move during those sessions, and you need to be confident and prepared with any new element — and, if he’s happy with the consistency, perhaps he’ll include one of the new quads in his free skate in January’s Canadian championships at Mississauga’s Hershey Centre.

And, if it goes well there, he could fire his technical shot across the bow at the world championships in London (that would be the Ontario one) in March.

Toronto Star article on Chan by Joseph Hall: http://www.thestar.com/sports/figureskating/article/1252675--patrick-chan-aims-to-take-sochi-olympics-in-stride-with-new-quads

Chan says he’ll continue to do the bulk of his training in Colorado this year, where he’s close to both the rink and the gym and far away from the culinary temptations of hometown Toronto.

“There are so many options of food in Toronto and it’s not necessarily the healthiest,” he says.

“I don’t have very good discipline for that.”

He also says he experiences a kind of Colorado high that Toronto doesn’t provide him.

“When I’m here it’s much more difficult to get in the rhythm of things, I somehow feel lazier when I’m in Toronto,” he says.

“It’s just a mental (thing). Some things you just can’t explain or control so I’d just rather stay in Colorado as much as I can.”

jdonavan
09-07-2012, 08:11 PM
... and also 2 new quads (Salchow and flip).

Canadian Press article by Lori Ewing: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/chan-embarks-on-season-with-new-coach-choreographers-and-two-new-programs/article4524866/


This Chan interview video includes a snippet from Chan's SP (his Rachmininoff "Elegie" exhibition turned into a SP): http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/sports-video/video-patrick-chan-happy-with-coaching-changes/article4525358/

Hamilton Spectator article on Chan by Steve Milton: http://www.thespec.com/sports/article/794049--chan-hopes-to-add-more-quad-jumps-to-his-repertoire


Toronto Star article on Chan by Joseph Hall: http://www.thestar.com/sports/figureskating/article/1252675--patrick-chan-aims-to-take-sochi-olympics-in-stride-with-new-quads

Wow - exciting stuff...Good luck team Chan!

Ziggy
09-08-2012, 12:11 PM
I think this decision might backfire.

Christy Krall has helped him a lot on the jumps. Without a proper skating coach to oversee things, bad habits might return.

alilou
09-08-2012, 04:25 PM
But actually it was Kathy Johnson who gave him the final key tip to getting the quad, not Krall. It was something to do with using his core more, or bringing his arms in tighter or whatever, but it came from Johnson not Krall, and it was after that that he got the quad.

ice9
09-08-2012, 04:28 PM
Oooo, I am excited for the new programs. Not so much for the new coach though.

Marco
09-08-2012, 05:02 PM
If he does 2 quads in the short and 3 quads in the free, he might be able to get away with not doing a 3axel at all. If he does the quads AND the 3axels he will be very difficult to beat.

Rock2
09-08-2012, 05:28 PM
I like the strategy. You are potentially setting yourself up to fail if you add quads in Olympic season. Need to plan all your tech content the year before to get enough reps in competition to be confident in the OGs.

By adding the 4F he will give himself flexibility in the SP like he has had in the past season. Go for the 4T/3T out of footwork. If you miss the combo then do 3F/3T combo. If you hit it you plan for the footwork/flip as the solo jump, but you just plan for triple or quad based on how practices are going and what the situation demands. All this without messing up program choreo. Great move.

Yes will be interesting to see what comes out if all the quads go in. 3A will almost surely stay in. He needs to keep working it in competition because it will always be in the SP.
In my mind though he fixed the 3A last season. Up until then he was jumping more inside the circle but his upper body was leaning out a touch. Now his takeoff is more straight out vs curving around which is lining up his upper and lower body nicely and in my mind creating the needed consistency.

This is a lot of tough work on his body. i know he's big on the off-ice training and this is where Kathy will be key...ensuring he trains to keep his body fit and stable for the demands technically. I just hope he stays healthy.

I hope he retains and continues to use a coach. Nice to take control of his training more but coaches serve a real purpose. Always.

centerpt1
09-08-2012, 05:29 PM
He already can't be beat (or at least, not often).

The extra quads will make him more unbeatable.

I hope Kathy Johnson can help him with his presentation and musicality. He is a fine skater, and I really hope I can get to where I enjoy watching his skating more.

It is a help that they are controlling his press coverage and preventing the arrogant sounding comments that have damaged his image in the past.

aliceanne
09-08-2012, 05:42 PM
I thought there was also a built in advantage to training in Colorado because it is at higher altitude and training there increases an athlete's stamina - is that not true?

AxelAnnie
09-08-2012, 06:27 PM
Well this is either going to be really good or really bad. I have a couple of rule to live by. All rights 1. Never wake a sleeping baby. 2. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

If this goes in the direction he wants, and I hope it does,, he'll be hailed for his genius, courage, and foresight.

skatesindreams
09-08-2012, 06:33 PM
Let's see what happens before we second-guess the strategy that Patrick and his team have chosen.

clarie
09-08-2012, 07:41 PM
Well, he's made some rather significant changes before and it seems they were to his advantage. I have a tendency to trust him and his decision making based on past decisions. Cudos to him for having the courage to move on when he feels the time is ripe.

The Accordion
09-08-2012, 08:43 PM
When I first read this I kind of panicked about the idea of him not having an actual skating coach.

But now I am thinking that there seems to be an awful lot of thought behind choices from his team including Patrick and his parents. Combine this with Skate Canada's watchful eye and if things start to come unravelled - steps will be taken to remedy the situation. That is what I am hoping.

If his jumps start to fail him - perhaps he plans to go to someone for help instead of a full time coach. I mean - what do his detractors say he is missing? So who is he spending his time with - someone who works on the dancing / performing aspect of his skating - and as a bonus - has been able to use dance knowledge to help him better his jumps~!

nlyoung
09-08-2012, 10:59 PM
Patrick seems to be taking the blame for "dumping" his coach (Krall) whereas I understood that she was the one who severed ties because he was beginning to rely more on others rather than just her. In other words, Patrick was hoping to keep her as a coach but as one of an expanded team. She wanted more say in the direction of his skating as primary coach and was unwilling to compromise.

spikydurian
09-08-2012, 11:40 PM
The impressions I get based on the interviews with Krall, Patrick and an article from Jo-Ann Schneider-Farris ( http://www.examiner.com/article/can-patrick-chan-s-only-skating-coach-be-a-modern-dance-teacher ) are: Patrick feels very comfortable with Kathy and wants to work more closely with her; he still wants to work with Krall but she will play the role of technical coach and not primary coach; Krall is not happy with the new arrangement and decided to resign; Patrick wants to explore a different training strategy compared to the one which Krall has in mind for him. It was an amicable parting and Patrick never fail to mention in interviews that Krall helped him in obtaining his quads.


Let's see what happens before we second-guess the strategy that Patrick and his team have chosen.
I worry for Patrick too ;) but as Skateindreams said, let's see what happens. Just as Accordion has mentioned, surely, Skate Canada will keep a watchful eye.