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kwanfan1818
09-11-2012, 03:31 AM
Me too. Although I think it would be difficult for him to be an underdog considering he'd have to lose a lot in these next two-ish years, but I think it would take a lot of the pressure off.
Didn't work so well for Tara Whitten.

Rock2
09-11-2012, 03:35 AM
Takes two hands to clap... :P

I'm sure once I figure out what that meant, I'll find it funny.

flipforsynchro
09-11-2012, 03:51 AM
Didn't work so well for Tara Whitten.

But it might work for chan

Proustable
09-11-2012, 04:12 AM
Eh, he'd still be going into Sochi as the guy who could realistically bring home Canada's first gold in men's figure skating. The pressure wouldn't change if he lost in London. Indeed, there would be so much more talk about the pressure in that situation, imo. Really, the best thing he can do is win everything from now until Sochi (he can skip next season's WTT, and probably should).

bardtoob
09-11-2012, 05:43 PM
The Rach program will be interesting. I'm certain Patrick and Jeff can pull off high brow introspective, emotionally rich music. Patrick's ability to do intricate edge work will really enhance "the program", in addition to just earning points in skating skills.

I'm not so confident about a La Boheme program because the skater and choreographer just don't seem to have enough "flavor" in them. Extroverted jesters are just not that strong from this team.

Leeedward
09-12-2012, 07:28 AM
I'm not Chan's biggest fan, but I see no one on the horizon (near or distant) that can come close to beating him at this point unless Chan has a complete melt-down. His skating skills are par excellent, his speed is blazing, footwork to die for, spectacular jumps(usually), but alas, to me his is a case of all skates--no heart. All skill--scant drama. But it makes no difference what I think, the judges love him and they determine the score.

tkaug
09-13-2012, 04:06 AM
... and also 2 new quads (Salchow and flip).

Honestly, I've had enough of his technical part.
Whatever music he skates to or whatever new techniques he learns, he looks boring to watch and a lack of his musicality stands out as the technical part improves.

Proustable
09-13-2012, 04:32 AM
I'm a Patrick Chan uber, and I'm very curious about how history will view him (which I think hinges upon Sochi, truth be told).

IceAlisa
09-13-2012, 04:39 AM
I am glad he is using Elegie (gorgeous) but I was secretly hoping for an LP. Not sure what to make of the coaching change yet.

Ziggy
09-13-2012, 10:10 AM
Honestly, I've had enough of his technical part.
Whatever music he skates to or whatever new techniques he learns, he looks boring to watch and a lack of his musicality stands out as the technical part improves.

Chan's timing is generally very good. You could say that he lacks style somewhat. He does moves to the music but it all looks a little robotic.

IceAlisa
09-14-2012, 12:16 AM
I think that no longer applies, especially after having seen his Elegie exhibition. He was smooth like butter and maintained a beautiful impression of flow both with his blades and body. :swoon: Again, I just wish that program were an LP. So gorgeous. Goosebumps.

venja
09-14-2012, 01:35 AM
Chan's timing is generally very good. You could say that he lacks style somewhat. He does moves to the music but it all looks a little robotic.

While I tend to agree a bit with your statement, I believe that Patrick is taking the necessary steps to work on this, such as training with his new coach. In the 16x9 video below you can see the influence Kathy Johnson has with Patrick working on his movement on- and off-ice at around the 5:25 mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKBUMs9kkk8

I am excited that Patrick finally has two new programs to unveil in one season, however I think that he will most likely keep one or both programs for the Olympic season.

bardtoob
09-14-2012, 02:18 AM
I think that no longer applies, especially after having seen his Elegie exhibition. He was smooth like butter and maintained a beautiful impression of flow both with his blades and body. :swoon: Again, I just wish that program were an LP. So gorgeous. Goosebumps.

I just watched that exhibition for the first time, and it reminded me of Toller Cranston.

crzesk8dad
09-14-2012, 02:34 AM
He already can't be beat (or at least, not often).

The extra quads will make him more unbeatable.



Really? :rofl:

The Accordion
09-14-2012, 02:50 AM
Chan is a much more understated performer than some- but I don't find him anything close to "wooden" or "robotic" and IMO he is quite musical. However, his performance is much much more subtle than someone like Takahashi (whom I also adore)- so I do understand that some people perceive him the way they do.
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But I do wish people would stop insisting that because they don't think he performs well or they don't find him musical that it is a fact.

I've also had my rant before about the arrogrance of people using words like heartless or soulless. For one thing - who are you to make such a judgment? For another thing, using such words for any skater that has put in the time needed to be a competitive figure skater is ludicrous.