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judgejudy27
10-30-2012, 08:41 PM
Flatt to skip rest of season w/ injury: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=48610&type=media

Will be interesting if she returns at all. She wont get a gp assignment next season (no way do I see USFSA using another host pick on her) and will have to qualify for Nationals.

TheGirlCanSkate
10-30-2012, 08:47 PM
Flatt to skip rest of season w/ injury: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=48610&type=media

Will an alternate be sent?

demetriosj
10-30-2012, 09:10 PM
I don't think it matters what Gracie does this fall, if she puts together 2 strong programs at Nationals, the judges won't hesitate to give her the scores to get her that second World spot.

Not as sure about this as prior to her skates at SC, but yah, probably..............

but, what if other skaters are phenomenal this fall and at Nationals?...................

RD
10-30-2012, 09:11 PM
It's not a retirement announcement, but I wonder if it might as well be?

It's kind of too bad, since she could have left the sport on her own terms, and on a good note, after Nationals in San Jose. She clearly pushed too hard after that, and her body can no longer handle it.

pinky166
10-30-2012, 09:16 PM
I think we're a bit over dramatic on Gracie
and c'mon comparing Gracie to Zawadzki and Zhang ?

Gracie has bigger talent and much more potential than say Flatt, Zhang or Zawadzki

Flatt and Zhang sure. To me, Zawadzki has tons of potential. Her jumps are huge, she's more flexible than Gracie and her spins in general are better. Her packaging under Tom Z was bad but since leaving him it's improved a lot. Agnes hasn't done well because she's had huge problems with consistency, the potential is definitely there. That's why I think she and Gracie are very comparable, there stories and competition histories have been similar, they are both from the same part of the country, they are both athletic power skaters and thus far appear to have the same strengths and weaknesses. If Agnes could deliver in competition, I have no doubt she'd do very well. Not to say she'd be a shoo-in to win World or Olympic medals, but I don't doubt that she could.

Nomad
10-30-2012, 09:34 PM
Flatt to skip rest of season w/ injury: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=48610&type=media

That's too bad. She actually had a chance of making the podium at Ice Challenge.

carriemarie
10-31-2012, 12:36 AM
The Life is Beautiful LP makes no sense. The music cuts are preposterous and the choreography is blah.

Scott Brown is a good choreographer for kids trying to make it out of Regionals, but he's not a top-level choreographer (yes, I know his resume boasts some big names, but I'm sure a lot of those are show programs or group numbers). I'm sure he desperately wants to hang on to Gracie and make it as a top-tier choreographer, but I hope her team chooses someone else for next year's programs. This is not a Michelle-Kwan-making-Lori-Nichol-famous situation. Brown isn't talented enough.


I am not impressed by Brown and never have been. I believe he only choreographed a show program for Michelle. He took over the choereography at the Ice Castle for shows post-Phillip Mills. He was there as the main choreographer for a couple of years at least. His resume does look impressive, but I can't think of a single program that I remember from him, despite the 'big' names. I think Gracie needs a new chroegrapher like Phillip Mills or Lori Nichol.

LilJen
10-31-2012, 01:05 AM
Flatt to skip rest of season w/ injury: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=48610&type=media
That can't have been an easy decision, but I think it's a smart one. There is just no other remedy for chronic injuries like hers but REST.

Coco
10-31-2012, 03:03 AM
I vote for Lee Ann Miller for Gracie :) Someone who will sloooooooooow her down but know how to use her amazing power and energy.

Do you think they'll replace Flatt for the Ice Challenge?

Jammers
10-31-2012, 03:58 PM
Slow? Really?!?!? :rofl: One thing that cannot be said about Gold is that she skates slowly.

Gracie reminds me a bit of Kostner coming out of juniors: she needs to learn to control that speed and her nerves. I concur she could use some better choreography, however I do think she has made a good deal of improvement in her stretch and artistry. I think the big question is: is making it to Sochi the end goal, or is she thinking beyond 2014?
I think Gracie will probably peak after Sochi. But she might hit her peak in between Olympics which has happened to a lot of great skaters. Sometimes timing is everything.

peibeck
10-31-2012, 04:17 PM
I vote for Lee Ann Miller for Gracie :) Someone who will sloooooooooow her down but know how to use her amazing power and energy.

I vote for Tom Dickson. Though I am completely biased, because I love his choreography. :lol:


Do you think they'll replace Flatt for the Ice Challenge?

It might be another opportunity for Mirai since it looks like no additional GP is forthcoming.

TheGirlCanSkate
10-31-2012, 04:23 PM
I vote for Tom Dickson. Though I am completely biased, because I love his choreography. :lol:



It might be another opportunity for Mirai since it looks like no additional GP is forthcoming.

But she will just be finishing Cup of China.

peibeck
10-31-2012, 04:25 PM
Well then the slot will probably go unfilled.

leafygreens
10-31-2012, 04:42 PM
Will be interesting if she returns at all. She wont get a gp assignment next season (no way do I see USFSA using another host pick on her) and will have to qualify for Nationals.

She won't be back. Her level of skating has deteriorated. Add in a break of a whole year, and forget it. I'm glad she's finally listening to her body and giving it the rest it needs, rather than showing up and continuing to perform badly.

olympic
10-31-2012, 05:39 PM
I agree with the posts above that Flatt is done w/ skating.

BTW, there is another thread on FSU in which someone stated that Alissa was in the audience at SC last weekend, and she spoke to someone there confirming she will be at NHK.