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Sylvia
09-28-2012, 05:29 PM
There are no Nebelhorn videos from the Ladies SP at this time on YouTube (that I can find).
ETA: The event just happened earlier today so I wouldn't expect to find any yet (only 5 Short Dance, 2 Pairs SP and 2 Men's SP videos have been uploaded from yesterday so far).

Caroline Zhang is not known for being an early season skater so I wouldn't worry too much about how she fares at Nebelhorn.

Hedwig
09-28-2012, 05:45 PM
Up till now there are tons of SD and Men videos but no ladies. but I guess they will appear in a day or two.

toddlj
09-28-2012, 06:09 PM
Caroline Zhang is not known for being an early season skater so I wouldn't worry too much about how she fares at Nebelhorn.

Hopefully she can pull up in the FS and get some standings points out of this event. Go Caroline! :kickass:

query5
09-28-2012, 10:55 PM
how can she when the USFSA wont cheat for her and overlook her mistakes like agnes, gracies at us figure skating classic as well as courtney, alissa, mirai, leah, rachel,

she needs help from the usfsa not punishing and bashing. they didn't give her a break so why should they public give the above mention skates one. when they don't skate well and shouldn't be marked above 100 in free

Sylvia
09-28-2012, 11:24 PM
Action photo of Caroline Zhang in her Nebelhorn SP on Friday (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=445587422158668&set=a.349141035136641.92268.113697665347647&type=1&theater) posted on Absolute Skating's Facebook page.

demetriosj
09-29-2012, 02:19 AM
how can she when the USFSA wont cheat for her and overlook her mistakes like agnes, gracies at us figure skating classic as well as courtney, alissa, mirai, leah, rachel,

she needs help from the usfsa not punishing and bashing. they didn't give her a break so why should they public give the above mention skates one. when they don't skate well and shouldn't be marked above 100 in free

Yes, Gracie doubled a triple-triple combo in the short and ended up in 2nd place, with way too many points for a skate like that at US Classic. Gracie's and Agnes' freeskates were very sloppy and also garnered ridiculous points for those performances.

onedge
09-29-2012, 03:52 AM
Why so bitter, demetriosi? Seems pretty personal. Disgruntled coach? Jealous parent?

mgobluegirl
09-29-2012, 04:04 AM
Yes, Gracie doubled a triple-triple combo in the short and ended up in 2nd place, with way too many points for a skate like that at US Classic. Gracie's and Agnes' freeskates were very sloppy and also garnered ridiculous points for those performances.

But that was an international panel. It's not like USFS judges were holding either Agnes or Gracie up at US Classic.

demetriosj
09-29-2012, 04:12 AM
Why so bitter, demetriosi?

don't know why you construe my comments as "bitter". Just stating the facts. don't think anything I'm saying is false.

if anything, you seem to be taking things personally...

krenseby
09-29-2012, 07:47 PM
Yes, Gracie doubled a triple-triple combo in the short and ended up in 2nd place, with way too many points for a skate like that at US Classic. Gracie's and Agnes' freeskates were very sloppy and also garnered ridiculous points for those performances.

Actually, Agnes's free skate at US Classic was an improvement on her free skate at Nationals. I felt that the competition was quite a positive experience for Agnes overall.

Sylvia
09-29-2012, 07:50 PM
Actually, Agnes's free skate at US Classic was an improvement on her free skate at Nationals. I felt that the competition was quite a positive experience for Agnes overall.
Thanks for saying something positive! :) I'm glad Agnes Zawadzki has a chance to compete her FS again at Japan Open next week, along with Ashley Wagner.

chipso1
09-29-2012, 08:06 PM
After Nebelhorn & JGP Bled...

2012-13 U.S. Ladies -- Top International Scores

1. Agnes ZAWADZKI (172.95), U.S. Classic
2. Gracie GOLD (171.15), U.S. Classic
3. Hannah MILLER (158.52), JGP Linz
4. Samantha CESARIO (157.72), JGP Linz
5. Leah KEISER (156.33), JGP Istanbul
6. Courtney HICKS (153.77), JGP Lake Placid

7. Angela WANG (150.40), JGP Lake Placid
8. Barbie LONG (147.19), JGP Bled
9. Kiri BAGA (142.22), JGP Lake Placid
10. Vanessa LAM (140.89), JGP Courchevel
11. Ashley CAIN (136.51), JGP Courchevel
12. Caroline ZHANG (124.13), Nebelhorn Trophy

13. Nina JIANG (115.48), JGP Istanbul

Upcoming assignments:

JGP Zagreb (Hannah MILLER, Angela WANG)
Finlandia Trophy (Mirai NAGASU)
JGP Chemnitz (Samantha CESARIO, Leah KEISER)
Skate America (Rachael FLATT, Christina GAO, Ashley WAGNER)

olympic
09-29-2012, 10:01 PM
After Nebelhorn & JGP Bled...

2012-13 U.S. Ladies -- Top International Scores

1. Agnes ZAWADZKI (172.95), U.S. Classic
2. Gracie GOLD (171.15), U.S. Classic
3. Hannah MILLER (158.52), JGP Linz
4. Samantha CESARIO (157.72), JGP Linz
5. Leah KEISER (156.33), JGP Istanbul
6. Courtney HICKS (153.77), JGP Lake Placid

7. Angela WANG (150.40), JGP Lake Placid
8. Barbie LONG (147.19), JGP Bled
9. Kiri BAGA (142.22), JGP Lake Placid
10. Vanessa LAM (140.89), JGP Courchevel
11. Ashley CAIN (136.51), JGP Courchevel
12. Caroline ZHANG (124.13), Nebelhorn Trophy

13. Nina JIANG (115.48), JGP Istanbul

Upcoming assignments:

JGP Zagreb (Hannah MILLER, Angela WANG)
Finlandia Trophy (Mirai NAGASU)
JGP Chemnitz (Samantha CESARIO, Leah KEISER)
Skate America (Rachael FLATT, Christina GAO, Ashley WAGNER)


Edit- The Japan Open will just be the LP, correct? Interesting to see what Ashley will do and happy that Agnes gets another shot at tweaking it ...

chipso1
09-30-2012, 12:27 AM
Edit- The Japan Open will just be the LP, correct? Interesting to see what Ashley will do and happy that Agnes gets another shot at tweaking it ...

Yes, I won't be including Japan Open on this list since it will be free skate-only.

demetriosj
09-30-2012, 01:37 AM
Thanks for saying something positive! :) I'm glad Agnes Zawadzki has a chance to compete her FS again at Japan Open next week, along with Ashley Wagner.

I am also glad that Agnes is improving this season.