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Triple Butz
09-20-2012, 06:55 PM
Well at least she didn't pull an Alissa and fall five times. I hope that she isn't injured, but this isn't good with SA about a month away.
In CoP it's better to try and rotate even if you fall. Alissa scored a 124, not a 103...:eek:

RD
09-20-2012, 07:10 PM
In CoP it's better to try and rotate even if you fall. Alissa scored a 124, not a 103...:eek:

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Anyway, if Flatt doesn't deliver on the jumps, unfortunately she has nothing to fall back on. I didn't even think she'd compete this season, but if she does I fully expect her to be a non-contender (like Em Hughes was around 2008-2010, etc.- too hard to stay on top if you're doing full-time college work). If she enjoys it, more power to her, I won't stop her. Still, a part of me hates to see the skills of a former Olympian deteriorate so quickly and so dramatically like that.

Having said that, it is only September so obviously I wouldn't expect skaters to be at their best. Even if it's a disaster, there's plenty of time to turn things around. (Remember Asada during the Oly season?)

olympic
09-20-2012, 10:03 PM
It seems based on the protocols that Rachael just went out to 'mark' the program; skate a choreographically clean program w/o any difficult jumps. Is that possible???

Jarrett
09-20-2012, 10:07 PM
It seems based on the protocols that Rachael just went out to 'mark' the program; skate a choreographically clean program w/o any difficult jumps. Is that possible???

Possible I guess, but doesn't explain the horrid PCS.

triple_toe
09-20-2012, 10:15 PM
Or the fall on the 2axel and big -GOE on the only triple she attempted.

Marco
09-21-2012, 03:09 AM
Why would she use a competition as a practice session? And she ought to know everyone is monitoring her progress.

olympic
09-21-2012, 02:21 PM
Why would she use a competition as a practice session? And she ought to know everyone is monitoring her progress.

IDK. It was just a brain fart. I can't honestly think of why a top level skater would otherwise perform like this unless she's injured.

chipso1
09-22-2012, 12:40 AM
After JGP Istanbul...

2012-13 U.S. Ladies -- Top International Scores

1. Agnes ZAWADZKI (172.95), U.S. Classic
2. Gracie GOLD (171.15), U.S. Classic
3. Hannah MILLER (158.52), JGP Linz
4. Samantha CESARIO (157.72), JGP Linz
5. Leah KEISER (156.33), JGP Istanbul
6. Courtney HICKS (153.77), JGP Lake Placid

7. Angela WANG (150.40), JGP Lake Placid
8. Kiri BAGA (142.22), JGP Lake Placid
9. Vanessa LAM (140.89), JGP Courchevel
10. Ashley CAIN (136.51), JGP Courchevel
11. Nina JIANG (115.48), JGP Istanbul

Upcoming assignments:

JGP Bled (Courtney HICKS, Barbie LONG)
JGP Zagreb (Hannah MILLER, Angela WANG)
JGP Chemnitz (most likely will be Samantha CESARIO & Leah KEISER)
Nebelhorn Trophy (Caroline ZHANG)
Finlandia Trophy (Mirai NAGASU)

Iluvid
09-22-2012, 01:46 AM
Well think about it Rachael and the other senior ladies had to do both programs in less than 8 hours. Her spins were simple no features in them really. She landed a few triple flips in the warm up! She looked upset after she skated the long. It's a start though it's not a major competition people!

Iluvid
09-22-2012, 01:49 AM
I skated with Rachael before the competition I don't think she's injured.

Coco
09-22-2012, 02:44 AM
Well, USFSA should figure out what they are going to do because other feds are looking for replacements.

Maybe Mirai would be better off at TEB, because there is no 'home skater' pressure. But it would be better from the ratings if she were at SA. Hmmm...

Sylvia
09-22-2012, 03:51 AM
After JGP Istanbul...
...
3. Hannah MILLER (158.52), JGP Linz
4. Samantha CESARIO (157.72), JGP Linz
5. Leah KEISER (156.33), JGP Istanbul
6. Courtney HICKS (153.77), JGP Lake Placid
7. Angela WANG (150.40), JGP Lake Placid


Here are the Total & FS scores (including TES/PCS) for the 5 U.S. ladies' JGP medalists so far:
158.52 Hannah Miller (103.05 = 54.57/48.48) JGP Austria Silver
157.72 Samantha Cesario (103.34 = 55.85/47.49) JGP Austria Bronze
156.33 Leah Keiser (105.63 = 58.04/47.59) JGP Turkey Gold
153.77 Courtney Hicks (102.41 = 51.89/50.52) JGP Lake Placid Silver
150.40 Angela Wang (105.69 = 55.79/49.90) JGP Lake Placid Bronze

Wyliefan
09-22-2012, 03:16 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but which competition was it that Rachael was in? I'm unfamiliar with it, and can't seem to find a thread for it in Kiss & Cry.

Sylvia
09-22-2012, 03:19 PM
It was just a club competition in Oakland, California called Skate St. Moritz (I mentioned it in the U.S. Club competitions thread in Kiss and Cry).

Wyliefan
09-22-2012, 04:02 PM
Oh, I must have overlooked that somehow. Thanks, Sylvia!