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flipforsynchro
08-20-2012, 06:26 PM
Yuna gave away two WC titles

dawnie
08-20-2012, 06:47 PM
Yuna gave away two WC titles

Actually, she had a chance to win every World Championship she participated in. Defending and repeating World titles seems to be a rarity for ladies these days. If Yuna won every World title from 2007-2011 there's no doubt she would have won this poll and be considered the greatest ladies skater of all time.

flipforsynchro
08-20-2012, 07:00 PM
^i think in 2010 and 2011 she could have easily gotten first. In 2007 wasn't she injured and same in 08? And I agree, if she did win 2007-2011 she would be one of the greatest.

dawnie
08-20-2012, 09:06 PM
^i think in 2010 and 2011 she could have easily gotten first. In 2007 wasn't she injured and same in 08? And I agree, if she did win 2007-2011 she would be one of the greatest.

Yes, she was injured in 2007 and 2008 but she could have won both titles.

She won the SP in 2007 and if she skated a semi-clean LP, the title would have been hers.

In 2008, she fell in the SP but won the LP and was only like 2 points away from winning the whole thing.

Looking back, I think she won at least one segment of the competition in all the Worlds she participated in so winning was within reach all those times.

I agree 2010 and 2011 should have been easy wins for her. Hell, even 2012 would have been a cakewalk for her.

So she could have hypothetically been a 6 time World Champion but as we all know, winning more than one World Championship is extremely tough for ladies.

judgejudy27
08-20-2012, 09:12 PM
It was actually missing the triple lutz at each Worlds from 2007-2011, most times more than once when one less miss would have done it, minus 2009 that cost Yu Na winning the title all those times, yet in the poll on this forum who had the best triple lutz ever Yu Na was the winner ahead of Ito and Harding. :lol: Suddenly Witt winning a best as best Olympic Champion skater doesnt seem so surprising anymore.

dawnie
08-20-2012, 09:34 PM
She didn't miss a triple lutz at all at the 2010 Worlds. She messed up the flip in the SP and fell on the salchow in the LP.

Vash01
08-21-2012, 05:47 AM
Yuna gave away two WC titles

How about Mao and Miki actually WINNING those? They did what it took to win.

Vash01
08-21-2012, 05:49 AM
^i think in 2010 and 2011 she could have easily gotten first. In 2007 wasn't she injured and same in 08? And I agree, if she did win 2007-2011 she would be one of the greatest.

Excuses excuses..........if if if..................

The only thing that matters is what she did in the competition.

By your logic, Michelle would have two OGMs- if only (fill in the blanks)

flipforsynchro
08-21-2012, 03:23 PM
Excuses excuses..........if if if..................

The only thing that matters is what she did in the competition.

By your logic, Michelle would have two OGMs- if only (fill in the blanks)

I'm just saying she COULD have easily won those two titles, not that she was nice and decided to give them to Mao/Miki. I'm not a Yuna fan, I'm just saying that she gave away two WC titles that she could've easily won.

I think you might have interpreted what I wrote differently

julieann
08-21-2012, 04:33 PM
My rankings would be:

1st: Kim
2nd: Witt
3rd: Lipinski

4th: Schuba
5th: Fleming
6th: Hamill
7th: Yamaguchi
8th: Arakawa
9th: Baiul
10th: Hughes
11th: Dijkstra
12th: Poetzsch

That's more how my list would have looked.

judgejudy27
08-21-2012, 06:12 PM
How about Mao and Miki actually WINNING those? They did what it took to win.

Miki's "winning" skates in 2011 were probably the worst in 20-30 years. She didnt win so much as survive the others. Yeah she did what it took to win that night, which wasnt much of anything. :lol:

dawnie
08-21-2012, 06:40 PM
Miki's "winning" skates in 2011 were probably the worst in 20-30 years. She didnt win so much as survive the others. Yeah she did what it took to win that night, which wasnt much of anything. :lol:

It wasn't that bad. Although I do think Miki was over-marked, her LP really wasn't horrible. I think once it became clear Mao wasn't going to be a factor at those championships, Miki became the beneficiary of pro-Japan politicking.

Vash01
08-21-2012, 06:42 PM
It wasn't that bad. Although I do think Miki was over-marked, her LP really wasn't horrible. I think once it became clear Mao wasn't going to be a factor at those championships, Miki became the beneficiary of pro-Japan politicking.

There was no pro-Japan politicking. Miki got it done. Yu na (and others) did not.

MikiAndoFan#1
08-21-2012, 06:55 PM
How about Mao and Miki actually WINNING those?They did what it took to win.

:respec:


Miki's "winning" skates in 2011 were probably the worst in 20-30 years.

:rofl: You're so exaggerated.

Vash01
08-21-2012, 07:08 PM
Miki's "winning" skates in 2011 were probably the worst in 20-30 years. She didnt win so much as survive the others. Yeah she did what it took to win that night, which wasnt much of anything. :lol:

Worse than Jill Trenary in 1990? Oksana Baiul in 1993? Annette Poesch (sp?) in the 1980s? Yuka sato in 1994?

Miki did more than any of these ladies (and I say more than Yuka, despite Yuka's sublime basic skating).