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HSGP21
08-08-2012, 12:44 PM
A controversial and over-discussed topic I know ... but Mirai Nagasu just "tweeted" exactly my thoughts while watching the Olympic gymnastics about the new team competition for 2014

Mirai Nagasu ‏@mirai_nagasu
We should have an individual spin competition, jump competition, twizzle competition, spiral competition.....


Instead of putting skaters through their competitive routine twice at the Olympic level (draining), wouldn't it be interesting to do a smaller, skills based competition pinning the best spinners/jumpers/edge workers/etc from each country against each other...

leafygreens
08-08-2012, 04:12 PM
Not the first time it's been brought up but I agree!

BaileyCatts
08-09-2012, 10:12 AM
So this Olympic Team thing is definitely going to happen in 2014? I never paid much attention to anything regarding that cause I thought no way it would happen. :o

When will it take place on the skating schedule? Will only those selected for Olympic teams get to compete, or can others be selected specifically to skate on the Team?

jdonavan
08-09-2012, 10:49 AM
So this Olympic Team thing is definitely going to happen in 2014? I never paid much attention to anything regarding that cause I thought no way it would happen. :o

When will it take place on the skating schedule? Will only those selected for Olympic teams get to compete, or can others be selected specifically to skate on the Team?

Its Happening, It's Happening, Its Happening. It is on the schedule BEFORE the traditional individual events. Yes you must be part of the actual qualified Olympic team to participate in the team event.

DickButtonFan
08-09-2012, 11:10 AM
I've always wanted to see an individual jump, spin, footwork competition in the olympics. I think it'd bring more interest.

johndockley92
08-09-2012, 12:04 PM
Its Happening, It's Happening, Its Happening. It is on the schedule BEFORE the traditional individual events. Yes you must be part of the actual qualified Olympic team to participate in the team event.

Aw, I thought it'd be better to use different athletes than the ones used in the individual events. That way the deeper teams would be rewarded and more athletes would have a great opportunity.

gingercrush
08-09-2012, 12:29 PM
A stupid idea that makes no sense to me whatsoever. I don't think it is appealing at all. They reject a team alpine skiing concept but not this. Bleh.

Theatregirl1122
08-09-2012, 02:46 PM
Its Happening, It's Happening, Its Happening. It is on the schedule BEFORE the traditional individual events. Yes you must be part of the actual qualified Olympic team to participate in the team event.

Unless there is no qualified athlete in a disciplin from a qualified team. So if Canada qualified a team but did not qualify a lady, they would be allowed to bring one lady for the competition.

This is not being done with skaters who aren't already Olympic participants because the IOC does not want to add more athletes. So something like this, which would only add a few more athletes, if any, and would add another medal event to their marquee winter sport is right up their ally.


And maybe I'm the only person on earth, but I'm thrilled about it. It's always been a little heartbreaking to me that, in skating, everyone only has one chance for Gold every four years. This way it will be more like Gymnastics. Where you will have individual and team gold medalists. And I don't really think that Gymnastics is inherently much more of a team sport than Figure skating. Plus, I think it'll actually be really nice for the skaters to get to be on a team. It seems like the swimmers, for example, really like getting to be on a team for relays and have that experience instead of always having to be individual competitors. It seems to be the same for Gymnastics.

crankyintheAM
08-09-2012, 03:42 PM
It seems so poorly thought out to me. The skaters participating in the team event will have to skate the same programs twice? Wasn't it in the news a few weeks ago that men's SP will take place the day before the Opening Ceremonies? Was that wrong or the schedule for figure skating is f#%@* up already?

I suspect the skaters were never taken into consideration when the ISU and IOC geniuses developed this team competition. :yikes: But ISU always has the skaters' best interest as its top priorities, right? :shuffle:


Now a jump/spins/footwork competition would be nice, and wouldn't be as time consuming.

Theatregirl1122
08-09-2012, 04:20 PM
Gymnasts who compete in prelims, team final, all around, and apparatus finals often do the same routines four times.

There's almost no way the men's SP is scheduled for before opening ceremonies is Sochi. The men are not even the first event on the Figure skating calendar. The team event should be. The only schedule I can find has figure skating the day before the opening ceremony but it also has 11 days of figure skating, not including the exhibition, and only four medal events so it is pretty obviously innacurate. If something is before the opening ceremony, I'd assume it is the team event SPs.

crankyintheAM
08-09-2012, 04:25 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/news/20120725/sochi-winter-olympics-early-start/


the early qualifying will be in the men's and pairs short program in figure skating, women's moguls in freestyle and men's snowboard slopestyle.


I guess it could be the SP for the team event. :(

the gymnastic routines are not always exactly the same and how long do they last? isn't floor the longest and it's only 90 seconds?

Theatregirl1122
08-09-2012, 08:02 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/news/20120725/sochi-winter-olympics-early-start/




I guess it could be the SP for the team event. :(

the gymnastic routines are not always exactly the same and how long do they last? isn't floor the longest and it's only 90 seconds?

There's almost no way the men's and pairs' SPs are the day before the opening ceremonies. For one thing, when has there ever been two different competitions on the same day for figure skating? And when have they ever overlapped like that? Besides, it has been announced that the team competition comes first. Since the team competition includes 40 total SPs which count as the preliminary round, perhaps they are splitting them over a couple of days rather than doing them all together. (Extra $$$$ and less time per session) So the men's and pairs' SPs for the team event are probably before the Opening Ceremonies. That would also explain why there are 11 days of competition for figure skating instead of 10.


I'm not sure what how long they last has to do with it? Sure, Gymnastics routines are not always exactly the same because gymnasts may save their most risky tricks for event finals, but they are generally the same. Aliya Mustafina did her floor routine four times and she never did it differently except for the execution. Aly Raisman made slight changes to hers (took out the end of her first pass) but that would be like a skater doing a 3-2 instead of a 3-3. She didn't get new music or choreography.


I seriously just can't understand why figure skating fans would be unhappy about there being more figure skating.


And tons and tons of athletes at the Olympics compete more than twice in 17 days. I don't see why it should be the end of the world for skaters.

kirkbiggestfan
08-09-2012, 08:33 PM
Lucindah Ruh would be a 3 time olympic gold medalist!
I would love to see a competition where ladies would go for 3A or quads.

marbri
08-09-2012, 08:37 PM
I seriously just can't understand why figure skating fans would be unhappy about there being more figure skating.
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Probably because we know how this sport works :D

If they really feel the need to do this have the team event after the individual events to represent the afterthought it is. Or even better bring in synchro, that skating discipline that is actually a team sport :P

Theatregirl1122
08-09-2012, 09:22 PM
Probably because we know how this sport works :D

If they really feel the need to do this have the team event after the individual events to represent the afterthought it is. Or even better bring in synchro, that skating discipline that is actually a team sport :P

I know how figure skating works and I'm excited.

And adding Synchro would add hundreds of athletes, the exact opposite of what the ISU wants. So that's a non-starter.