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shan
09-09-2012, 01:56 AM
Possibly, but Wretchen was just a bitch, I hated her clothes. Elena, at least, has the talent to back it up.

But why is that talent not showing on the regular season of Project Runway? Her work so far has been sub-par. I need to go back and look at her previous week's work, but I can't think of a single challenge in which she did well. I'm answering my own question I guess, but maybe she can't work under the time constraints on PR.

I have to admit that I was disappointed that she wasn't sent home last night.

aftershocks
09-09-2012, 01:57 AM
Because of the show's scheduling vs. date of Fashion Week (and producers' desire to not have show's outcome spoiled), I wish they would allow the final eight competitors to design collections, yes, but have at least 5 or 6 designers be in the running, and then decide who the top 3 will be after the collections are shown. The final tv show could be focused on picking the top 3 from the top 5 or 6 collections shown, and then deciding who wins among the final 3. In that way, more designers (especially those who step it up for collections, but who may not have done as well during the series) have a chance to win it all.

Many of the designers seem to be burnt out after the high intensity emotion and non-stop action of the series. Also, some designers (including Elena) apparently work better when they have more time. Conversely, some of the designers who perform well during the series don't do as well in putting together a cohesive collection. In this respect, Mychael Knight from Season 3 comes to mind.

Elena did seem to learn from some of her design mistakes during the series challenges (and she also likely learned from the collections of past winners, particularly season 1 winner, Jay McCarroll, and the first all star series winner, Daniel Vosovic (whose all-star collection I didn't like, but his styling and cohesiveness made an impact with the judges -- in addition to them wanting to make up for his not winning season 2).

cruisin
09-09-2012, 03:07 AM
But why is that talent not showing on the regular season of Project Runway? Her work so far has been sub-par. I need to go back and look at her previous week's work, but I can't think of a single challenge in which she did well. I'm answering my own question I guess, but maybe she can't work under the time constraints on PR.

I have to admit that I was disappointed that she wasn't sent home last night.

I think it may be a combination of the time constraints, the bizarre and unrealistic challenges, having difficulty working with the other designers, and learning along the way. I still think she is really talented.

Nomad
09-09-2012, 03:17 AM
Judging by her audition pieces and her closet tour, I'll give Elena credit for her technical skill, but I find her aesthetic as repulsive as her personality. I haven't liked one single thing she's made. I do find her hypocrisy somewhat amusing, however, like declaring she hates glitter while wearing a sparkly tank top, or dissing Comrade Snape's sales pitch after asking people if they wanted to buy "crappy t-shirts".

aftershocks
09-09-2012, 04:51 AM
^^ I agree with you, Nomad. I too am not in love with Elena's aesthetic, nor with hardly any of the designs she so far has completed during the season. I also don't like her personality that was on display during the season. However, Elena ultimately seemed to learn from her challenge mistakes. She came up with an eye-catching collection -- the kind of runway show the judges tend to reward. I still find it hard to believe that Elena is winning in the fan favorite voting. I'm surprised that Melissa, Chris, and even Dimitri are not coming in ahead of Elena with fan votes.

Elena seems to be loved by the judges and by the producers (as well as by the fans who have voted for their favorite). With her technical skills and her savvy about putting together a cohesive, thematic collection with catchy styling, Elena may well end up winning PR 10, unless she tanked badly on one of the final challenges, and did not make the top three.

Who might be auf'ed next week I wonder: Fabio, Gunnar, Melissa, Dimitri, Sonjia? Gunnar is not completely awful. Altho' I haven't liked many of his challenge designs, I do enjoy his final collection (except for the strange top with breast patches). Judges seem to like Chris, Ven, and Elena to a fair degree. They also have been impressed by the work of Melissa and Sonjia. Disappointingly, Sonjia and Melissa do not have great overall collections. At least one of them may have made the top three, but I hope not after seeing their collections. On my third look at Chris' collection, I am less enamored of some of his looks, but I think it worked well overall. If he made the top three, Chris might come in second to either Elena or Ven (if they were also contending in the top three).

ETA:
Re the unibrows on Dimitri's models, I recall Johnny Weir being in a Fashion Week show sometime ago in which the styling involved a similar unibrow look. It was a menswear collection and the look seemed to go with the designs -- and since it was used on men, the unibrow makeup altho' unexpected didn't seem as harsh as the way it looked on Dimitri's models. Dimitri's styling made some of his models look like men and detracted from his designs.

While I wouldn't be interested in wearing anything in Elena's collection, it seems to have a trendy, youthful appeal and the looks work for the runway.

Nomad
09-09-2012, 05:04 PM
If Elena wins this, it will be a "best of the worst" situation, IMO. After looking at them again, I have to say that I wasn't really impressed by any of the final collections; I liked a few pieces from each, but the only two that wowed me were Gunnar and Sonjia, and not in a good way. I suspect that Ven did not make the F3 - his collection included the rose bodice/pleated palazzo pant from episode one, and the pink cocktail dress looks like the one on his website (in red, modeled by ANTM S10's Claire Unabia).

aftershocks
09-09-2012, 05:22 PM
^^ True, the more I look, the more I become underwhelmed overall by the collections of this season's designers. That said, I still think that most PR designers are completely burnt out by the end of the often ridiculous time-limited challenges they have to endure day-in and day-out. This situation has happened before on PR where even the best designers come up with underwhelming hit and miss collections likely due to being traumatized by the season's judging and simply being burnt out and uninspired.

Still, Elena's and Ven's collections are the most memorable. And the others have some interesting looks and some ghastly looks. Gunnar took chances and came up with a cohesive collection, but not a PR winner and he is unlikely to be in the top three. Chris has a good collection for the most part, especially in comparison to the scattered hit and misses of Sonjia and Melissa, the somewhat pretty but underwhelming collection of Fabio, and the disappointing mistakes made by Dimitri.

skatesindreams
09-09-2012, 05:38 PM
You never know who the judges will choose.
Sometimes their ideas of what is worthy are very different from ours.

Nomad
09-09-2012, 06:01 PM
The problem I have with Ven and Elena's collections (Elena's in particular) is that they seemed very one-way monkey. One basic idea repeated 8-10 times, with slight variations. And Ven's? Shiny fabrigami, a rose is a rose is a rozzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Rogue
09-14-2012, 03:23 PM
I agree with Snape's win last night, but Sonjia was a close second. It was fun to see all the families.

my little pony
09-14-2012, 03:26 PM
so happy for snape's win!

sonja's looked nice on the model but 99.99% of all humans would look ridiculous in those pants. for proof, checkout brady bunch reruns.

PRlady
09-14-2012, 03:36 PM
so happy for snape's win!

sonja's looked nice on the model but 99.99% of all humans would look ridiculous in those pants. for proof, checkout brady bunch reruns.

:rofl: I wanted the shirt, not the slacks, but Sanji did a good job on them. Dmitri SO deserved this win, oh do I want that outfit and I hate prints.

duane
09-14-2012, 03:48 PM
Mondo made Brady Bunch outfits during his entire PR season and it seemed everyone loved his designs.

I thought Sonjia's pants were loud without being overwhelming, and they worked because (unlike what Mondo would have done) she didn't mix them with a printed top. I'm glad Dimitri finally won a competition, but thought Sonjia more deserved the win.

cruisin
09-14-2012, 03:55 PM
Glad Dimitri won. In my opinion, there was no one else even close.

Sonjia's was good, but DVF has done it for a long time and better.

Rob
09-14-2012, 04:12 PM
Dmitry's jacket was amazing. Sonjia's was very elegant. Loved the top more than the pants, but the pants were a beautiful fit and flow.

Gunnar's was totally Maxinista.

Ven is one trick pony at this point. Right now, I don't think he's really in the running for F3 unless he comes up with more than what he has shown so far. But his clothes would probably sell well at Lord & Taylor, which is part of the prize.