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Vagabond
07-12-2012, 08:48 PM
The tribe has spoken.

Ilia Kulik (http://photo.bababian.com/20060328/F1045ECBED05AAA1151CB29629267F6E_500.jpg) (5th) has been voted off.

The original contestants were the last twelve men to win a World or Olympic title.

Previous eliminees are:

Patrick Chan (6th)
Brian Joubert (7th)
Jeffrey Buttle (8th)
Elvis Stojko (9th)
Evan Lysacek (10th)
Todd Eldredge (11th)
Alexei Urmanov (12th)

If you thought last round was tough, this weak is tougher!

:EVILLE:

The four remaining skaters are:


Alexei (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_dtezybzM) Yagudin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sVYs2M_rIm0#t=18s): Worlds 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, Olys 2002, Worlds Silver 2001, Worlds Bronze 1997
Evgeni (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieMEfklmuI) Plushenko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21woRiBqrks): Worlds 2001, 2003, 2004, Olys 2006, Olys Siliver 2002, 2010, Worlds Silver 1999, Worlds Bronse 1998
Stéphane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmDCy_bVYhs) Lambiel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzhQkDlPCrU): Worlds 2005, 2006, Olys Silver 2006, Worlds Bronze 2007
Daisuke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swvoX8si-dY) Takahashi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9zx_6PTmIQ): Worlds 2010, Worlds Silver 2007, 2012, Olys Bronze 2010


Bonus videos:

Alexei Yagudin Worlds 1999 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaRu4vWzfhY)
Alexei Yagudin Worlds 1999 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JreQby8Kbug)
Alexei Yagudin Worlds 2000 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqs1nNmOpok)
Alexei Yagudin Worlds 2000 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JT_HiEQA6A&feature=related)

Evgeni Plushenko Worlds 2001 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AlGuwx61D8)
Evgeni Plushenko Worlds 2001 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkMDHkeOZs&feature=player_detailpage#t=7s)
Evgeni Plushenko Worlds 2004 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wSPAF_7HUc&feature=player_detailpage#t=5s)
Evgeni Plushenko Worlds 2004 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShH2dvsEuMk)

Stéphane Lambiel Worlds 2004 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK4Z_Te47P4)
Stéphane Lambiel Worlds 2004 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nyc3B1hQIQ)
Stéphane Lambiel Worlds 2007 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJtMCRlHi80&feature=player_detailpage#t=16s)
Stéphane Lambiel Worlds 2007 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6kjv_RwvFo&feature=relmfu)

Daisuke Takahashi Four Continents 2011 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-6ERfRQGKY)
Daisuke Takahashi Four Continents 2011 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yv5SRgU2uk&feature=player_detailpage#t=21s)
Daisuke Takahashi Worlds 2012 SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N1o3oMb_bw)
Daisuke Takahashi Worlds 2012 FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64QdXaZsUxs&feature=player_detailpage#t=19s)

Who is the weakest link? Use whatever criteria you want, and let the :argue: :angryfire and :wuzrobbed begin!

:watch:

blue_idealist
07-12-2012, 08:59 PM
I voted for Lambiel. I can't possibly vote out Yagudin or Plushenko with their competitive track records (especially Plushenko's!) and I think Takahashi is the most gifted artist on ice EVER, so Lambiel it is. He was often inconsistent anyway.. I mean, with falls, not necessarily placements, because even with falls he was often still the best skater in the competitions he entered, partly because after Plushenko retired for the first time there was no skater who was very consistent until Lysacek became so in the late '00s (2009 to be quite specific).

bartek
07-12-2012, 09:22 PM
This is so tough I can't really decide. I love Daisuke and Stephane, the greatest artists but Plushenko's career speaks for itself and it makes up for his flaws. Hmmm, I think that it's probably Yagudin's turn.

Zemgirl
07-12-2012, 09:31 PM
^^ Lysacek was consistent, but it was more like, consistently in the medals. He didn't have a great year the season he won Worlds, and he lost at CoC and Nats in the Olympic season. Speaking of consistency, Joubert actually had a pretty good run in the first two post-Turin seasons, while Lambiel only won three events in that entire Olympic cycle: 2006 Skate Canada, the 2007-8 GPF, and 2009 Nebelhorn. Granted he missed a season, but that's still kind of uninspiring.

For me, this round should be about Lambiel vs. Takahashi. After explaining why I felt Dai deserves to stay in previous rounds, I have persuaded myself that he should also defeat Stephane. Both of them are superb skaters who could have done more with their talent and abilities and were plagued by inconsistency - some of it health-related, but they're not the only skaters in this list to have dealt with medical problems. Still, Takahashi did have more performances in which he lived up to his potential, or at least came close to it. Lambiel had fewer such skates, and wasn't particularly good when he won his first Worlds or his Olympic medal.

Sorry, Stephane. You're still amazing.

vodkashot
07-12-2012, 09:45 PM
Yagudin, Plushenko, Lambiel, Takahashi. Three skaters I adore and one who leaves me completely cold.

Screw logic! Screw medals!

I'm voting Plushenko out.

DaiKozOda
07-12-2012, 10:03 PM
My admiration for Lambiel doesn't prevent me to vote him out. I'll try to post my reasons latter but I can add a few right now (having in mind that I'm comparing him with the remaining skaters):
- 1st world title in 05 with a FS with a bunch of mistakes and in the absence of Plushenko;
- 2nd world title in 06 - mistake in the Fs.
- do I need to mention his problems with the triple axel?
- Inconsistent;
In all fairness, the two guys making it into the big final must be Yagudin and Plushenko.

Mafke
07-12-2012, 10:08 PM
By process of eliminating those I can't vote for (through enjoyment or respect) voted for Takahashi. Record can't compare with Yag or Plush and I enjoy Lambiel much more.

judgejudy27
07-12-2012, 10:23 PM
Voted for Takahashi.

Plushenko's record and technical dominance are indisputable and younger Plushenko was not considered artistically deficient either. If Lambiel were scored the way Chan, Lysacek, Joubert and even Plushenko are he would have won every Worlds or Olympics from 2004-2007 (not saying he deserved to win all those btw, just if he were scored like they are, aka as overscored as they all are, he still would have). Yagudin is the best ever.

So sadly Takahshi is the one to go for me even though he would be the 2010 Olympics, 2010 World, and 2012 World Champion himself with fair judging.

Macassar88
07-12-2012, 10:57 PM
Time for Lambiel to go. Then Takahashi.

centerpt1
07-12-2012, 11:00 PM
Voted Lambiel

It was between him and Takahashi. Kind of a toss up, but Lambiel was sloppy at times.

I'm having trouble understanding how Plushenko could go out now.

crankyintheAM
07-12-2012, 11:04 PM
It was between Lambiel and Takahashi for me, I voted Lambiel because I like him much better now, doing shows, than I ever liked him while he was competing.

Not a big fan of Plushenko but I can't believe he's gotten so many votes already.

t.mann
07-12-2012, 11:26 PM
Dai's turn.

Great musicality and great performer.
But not true artist like Lambiel.
And somewhat weak jumps(questionable 3Lz edge etc.).

Glacier cat
07-13-2012, 12:26 AM
I can't believe why Plushenko is weaker than Lambiel or Takahashi!!? lol
This is American board! Very silly result. Very biased people's forum!!! XD :lol:

Glacier cat
07-13-2012, 12:33 AM
It was between Lambiel and Takahashi for me, I voted Lambiel because I like him much better now, doing shows, than I ever liked him while he was competing.

Not a big fan of Plushenko but I can't believe he's gotten so many votes already.

I can say It doesn't mean Plushenko is really weaker than others. These 31 people cannot see what is the real because of distaste. I'm sure. :rolleyes:

Or they mix up this poll's aim with popularity poll.

Vagabond
07-13-2012, 12:33 AM
I'm having trouble understanding how Plushenko could go out now.


Not a big fan of Plushenko but I can't believe he's gotten so many votes already.


I can't believe why Plushenko is weaker than Lambiel or Takahashi!!? lol
This is American board! Very silly result. Very biased people's forum!!! XD :lol:

People are voting Plushenko out for the same reason they voted out Lysacek and Chan -- because whatever his accomplishments, his performances left them cold.