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Maofan7
07-05-2012, 07:25 AM
This profile thread takes a look back at Oksana Baiul's all too short competitive career (background info: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oksana_Baiul), Oksana Baiul - Then & Now (http://viewzone2.com/oksana.html), Official Website (http://www.oksanastyle.com/), Oksana Baiul - Ice Princess (http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/oksanabaiul/), Interview (http://www.goldenskate.com/2003/03/oksana-baiul-online-interview/)).

BACKGROUND

Baiul was born in Dnepropetrovsk (then part of the USSR) on the 16th November 1977. Her parents separated when she was just two years old. Her grandfather provided her with her first pair of skates for her 4th birthday, and inspired by her childhood idol, Jill Trenary, within three years, she was skating in local competitions.

1989/90 & 1990/91

In 1990, Baiul finished 12th in the Soviet championships, and finished 10th in the same championships the following year.

1991/92

In 1991, Baiul competed in the Nations Cup, finishing fourth in a competition won by Nancy Kerrigan. At the age of thirteen, however, Baiul's mother, Marina, died of ovarian cancer, and her grandmother died shortly afterwards. Baiul then lived with her coach, Stanislav Koretek, and his family until Koretek emigrated to Canada in 1992. Alone, Baiul was left with no option but to sleep in a cot at her hometown ice rink. It was then that fellow Ukrainian skater, Viktor Petrenko, suggested that Baiul train with his coach (and mother-in-law), Galina Zmievskaya. Shortly thereafter, Baiul moved into Zmievskaya's home in Odessa, sharing a small bedroom with one of Zmievskaya's daughters in a crowded 3 room apartment

Due to the personal upheavals in her life, it would be almost 18 months before Baiul would surface again in international competition following her fourth placed finish in the 1991 Nations Cup (which meant that she did not therefore get to compete in any international junior competitions).

1992/93

Upon her return, Baiul won the Ukrainian Championships in early 1993, and then made a sensational impact at the 1993 European championships where she finished 2nd to Surya Bonaly:-

1993 European Championships - SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqVcHhIC0pk), 1993 European Championships - FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybAWyL5F0o)

Baiul followed this up 2 months later by winning the 1993 World Championships in equally sensational style:-

1993 World Championships - SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PQBBXDId-g), 1993 World Championships - FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfdfjIoGWw4), Gala (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46FnuL2_9Gc)

1993/94

The 1993/94 season began for Baiul with a win at Skate America:-

Skate America (1993) - SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX8jm_kA_oM), Skate America (1993) - FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mznM_VGSzP8), Exhibition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf90rjPygT8)

Baiul then finished 2nd in the Nations Cup

Nations Cup (1993) - SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKd8oRgK_4), Nations Cup - FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghkuuvLRuQ)

1994 began with victory again in the Ukrainian Championships, and another 2nd placed finish in the European Championships behind Surya Bonaly:-

1994 European Championships - SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRoVqkISQEQ), 1994 European Championships - FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgYaAIUqy3M), Gala (with Petrenko) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KS3Db4ekIk)

Baiul's amateur competitive career reached its zenith shortly afterwards, when she won Gold at the 1994 Olympics:-

1994 Olympics - SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m08GHxNDCto), 1994 Olympics - FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fvrG3f0fI), Gala (The Swan) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bH0CAPzef8), Gala (with Petrenko) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yoOi1NiIz4)

Baiul retired from amateur competition after the 1994 Olympics, and then turned professional.

FINAL POINTS

Does anybody know of the whereabouts of videos relating to Baiul's performances in the 1991 Nations Cup, and in the various Soviet/Ukranian Championships she took part in? If so, please upload and/or post the links.

Plusdinfo
07-05-2012, 11:20 AM
I loved (and still love) watching Oksana skate. My memory tells me that she took ballet lessons, and it really showed. Her movement was so natural and unforced. There are no do-overs in life, but as a sometimes selfish fan, it would have been nice to have seen her compete from 1991-1993 and then, post-Lillehamer, not suffer such physical and emotional strife. Oksana would have left many more captivating programs for our eyes if she had been healthier and not been so isolated in her personal life.

As for her off-ice behavior, I appreciate Oksana's honesty in interviews. I clearly remember her leaving an American interviewer baffled with her response to a question.

Although many mocked (and mock) her professional career, I give Oksana credit for having tried to compete even when she wasn't at her best.

Aussie Willy
07-05-2012, 11:29 AM
Oksana is one of the most naturally artistic and musical skaters.

Judge Dred
07-06-2012, 07:24 AM
She had a knee op following the Olympics and came back too soon due to contractual commitments. This seemed to ruin her jumps. Had that not happened and had she continued competing into the 95-98 quad, that would have made the 98 Olympics one fab competition - Oksana, the Kween, Tara and Lulu.

vodkashot
07-06-2012, 09:54 AM
She had a knee op following the Olympics and came back too soon due to contractual commitments. This seemed to ruin her jumps. Had that not happened and had she continued competing into the 95-98 quad, that would have made the 98 Olympics one fab competition - Oksana, the Kween, Tara and Lulu.

I loved watching Oksana too. Her only LP was quite terrible, but when she was forced to put some proper elements in her SPs, they were :kickass:.

By the way, is it true that Brian Boitano said Oksana didn't know any other turns besides the 3 turn? I heard that somewhere a long time ago but can't seem to find a source.

Plusdinfo
07-06-2012, 10:47 AM
You can access the Nations Cup LP here: http://www.frogsonice.com/skateweb/videos.shtml
I just watched it and loved her reaction to a certain move (watch for yourself!).

Plusdinfo
07-06-2012, 10:47 AM
(Go to Compilations and then Jumping beans and baby ballerinas)

Maofan7
07-06-2012, 01:07 PM
You can access the Nations Cup LP here: http://www.frogsonice.com/skateweb/videos.shtml
I just watched it and loved her reaction to a certain move (watch for yourself!).

Many thanks. Much appreciated.

It also clears something up. The video is from the 1992 Nations Cup. She finished 4th (Surya Bonaly won the competition). Hence, I did some further checking and established that Oksana did not compete in the 1991 Nations Cup and that this reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Nations_Cup) is therefore incorrect. Whoever compiled it, got the 1991 and 1992 Nations Cups mixed up. Ice Network provides a more accurate competitive history here (http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/detail.jsp?id=100580&mode=I). Apologies for the error.

Maofan7
07-09-2012, 05:11 PM
On YouTube:

Oksana Baiul - 1992 Nations Cup - FS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKQ6cezLi7o)

Some programs from her professional career:-

The Swan - 1994 Skate of Gold (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7TxLfw0V8)

"Sadness" by Enigma - 1995 Fox Rock & Roll Championships (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le17cE77xC4)

"Meditation" - 1995 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6_0VlvmVh8)

Arabian - Champions on Ice 1995 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBitf9F4pWA)

1995 Hershey Challenge Exhibition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Shqo_KBV0)

As Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz on Ice 1996 (Over The Rainbow) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnsNAVN5R7Q)

All That Jazz 1997 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRrW1Q_0nk)

1998 World Pro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfOOh-ayQho)

"Asian Program" - 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuUT5cS2B_U)

leafygreens
07-14-2012, 04:17 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/23/sports/figure-skating-oksana-baiul-orphan-at-13-and-champion-at-15.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Does anybody remember how there was talk of Oksana having "crooked blades"? What does this mean? Were they over-sharpened and didn't have a rocker? It says her skates were "handed down from a male skater" which makes no sense if her skates were white. Maybe they just mean, the blades were handed down?

There was also talk about her having "one vertebrae missing" which enabled her to do the donut spin... :lol: It's funny how nobody talks about missing vertebrae these days, with everyone doing Biellmanns.

This article refers to her as "an impish Gumby on skates." :rofl:


The Winter Games are just 10 months away, and Baiul will not change her programs that much before next February. She will still perform a sassy flamenco in the short program

This is interesting, she changed her SP for the Olympics.

blue_idealist
07-16-2012, 04:33 AM
Sorry, but this is terrible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8Xe-yoFus

sadya
07-16-2012, 09:11 AM
I love her Paquita program, some people said it would have been her 1995 competitive program, but I'm not sure about that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pz6Zkbkhvs


I love her 'Safe from Harm' program too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFB0xs8wMJU

leafygreens
07-16-2012, 03:20 PM
I love her Paquita program, some people said it would have been her 1995 competitive program, but I'm not sure about that:

What do you mean by that - how do you know she was planning on competing into 1995? Why didn't she?

sadya
07-16-2012, 06:33 PM
I don't. It was said that if she would have competed, then this would have been her lp. But like I already said, I'm not sure about that.

leafygreens
07-16-2012, 07:12 PM
I wish she would have competed. Even if she never won anything again or just got a few more silver/bronzes, it would have been fulfilling to watch.

Does anyone know the reason why she turned pro? Was it to make money? Did it have anything to do with her "personal problems" - or did that come after she started to make money?