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Emdee
07-20-2012, 01:26 AM
But at all points there was a significant gap.

Golightly
07-20-2012, 02:10 AM
You have to admit 10 points is still quite a gap.

Proustable
07-20-2012, 02:15 AM
Yes, I do have to admit that.

maggylyn
07-20-2012, 03:03 AM
the passion and intensity with which they can skate something like this will make it fresh. I think audiences will go crazy for it, if it IS the fd. I'm going to be disappointed if it's not.

Not to mention, for the fans yearning for a vampire program or an on fire, sexual Scott, music telling the story of a man passionately tormented by a woman, driven to kill her out of jealousy, should more than meet those fantasies. I'm looking forward to Tessa - if it's a free dance. Her performance in the cd in 2008, in Farrucas, in absolutely anything Latin should settle any question. She's not going to be some diva gargoyle on ice. She'll do what she does, which is fiery, committed and sexy.


Like many here, my first reaction wasn't favorable. But after reading about this for a couple days I'm changing my mind. The perception that Carmen is used too often I think comes mostly from singles skaters using it frequently.

I saw a list someone did of past ice-dance programs using Carmen (top-tier teams) and in reality it's very few.

I agree with Subway's point of view. There's every reason to expect that V/M's interpretation will not only be fabulous but will actually be a brilliant move on their part as far as strategy.

I find I'm quite looking forward to it. :)

sap5
07-20-2012, 03:56 AM
What is the strategy?

geoskate
07-20-2012, 06:14 AM
Anything can happen in figure skating, of course, but I think if P/B were to surpass V/M it would come as a huge surprise to their coach Angelika Krylova:


My favorite ice dance team has always been and remains now the Canadians Virtue/Moir, who had drawn the attention to themselves the very first moment they appeared on the figure skating stage. Scott is a simply brilliant athlete. It is a talent given by God. He has such a fine sense of music, all his movements are so natural that he just melts into the dance. It's the highest level of skill - when you do not think how to enter an element, how to perform it. For them it's in the past, they have reached a level when they can just give in to dance.

From http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3546075&postcount=58

But this is an interesting discussion. The 'levels' part is certainly something that should be taken seriously.

I love P/B, but I think it's more likely that they would be overtaken by Weaver/Poje or Bobrova/Soloviev than that they would overtake either D/W or V/M. I think the most likely outcome of this season, however, is that they will remain in third.

Golightly
07-20-2012, 11:36 AM
What is the strategy?

Probably removing the big operatic piece from the table, show they ALSO can do that. It's smart, actually. Again, if it's true, I still have my doubts.

lauravvv
07-20-2012, 05:50 PM
Probably removing the big operatic piece from the table, show they ALSO can do that. It's smart, actually. Again, if it's true, I still have my doubts.If it's their own choice, then it's probably really their strategy. I somehow doubt that Zueva would offer them a piece of music and a program to it so that they could show that they're at least as good, if not better at it as her other, very much bleoved team. It would mean removing that trump card from Davis/White. So, if Tessa and Scott are really doing that, and if it's Zueva's offer, it could mean that it's not going to be a traditional 'Carmen' after all, and they are thinking of something different from Davis/White's style.

Golightly
07-20-2012, 07:51 PM
I never implied that they'd be going for D-W's style. That's just never going to happen. Ever. Mainly that Carmen seems like a music D-W would go for.

HSGP21
07-21-2012, 11:45 AM
I never implied that they'd be going for D-W's style. That's just never going to happen. Ever. Mainly that Carmen seems like a music D-W would go for.

The same sources says they (D/W) are skating to Maleguena, which is not VERY similar to Carmen, but more similar than they have ever done in a season...odd decision (IF it is true)

bmcg
07-21-2012, 12:59 PM
Pretty sure that was a joke. Some people, when hearing V&M were skating to Carmen, joked that D&W would skate to Malaguena. Later that info is posted on that formspring account with the addition that Shibs are skating to Amelie.

marikat
07-21-2012, 09:22 PM
WO Dance Seminar 2012 with Tessa & Scott http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.446709628684555.99336.160795530609301&type=3

Macassar88
07-21-2012, 09:41 PM
Blegh I hate Scott's new hair
I also think it's weird seeing him in a hoodie

I love this picture - especially Tessa
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/391615_446742395347945_2054943260_n.jpg

I love the way she holds her arm up

l'etoile
07-21-2012, 09:55 PM
WO Dance Seminar 2012 with Tessa & Scott http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.446709628684555.99336.160795530609301&type=3

Thank you for the link! I like Scott's new style, he's gone back to young, cute Scott:swoon:

HSGP21
07-21-2012, 11:27 PM
Those pictures are wonderful. Scott is looking strong!!!

Amidst the conversations about choreography/music choices/competition/etc, it seems easy to forget what an amazing career these two have had already. If they were to give up tomorrow, they have already changed ice dance for Canada. Yes growing up they had great champions to emulate (Wilson and McCall, Bourne and Kratz, Dubreuil and Lauzon) but no one had won the Olympic Gold. To be the first to win the Olympic gold medal in your field from your country is truly mindblowing, to be the first to win from your continent is even crazier. These cute little kids know it is possible to achieve the highest honor in the sport if they set their minds to it because of Tessa and Scott. THAT is powerful stuff!