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allezfred
06-27-2012, 04:03 PM
Bye bye Sale & Pelletier. There's no way of whining your way to gold in this one. :P


Shishkova & Naumov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQrvrrpB3X8): Worlds 1994
Kovaříková & Novotny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHP6aC73Gmk&feature=player_detailpage#t=91s): Worlds 1995
Woetzel & Steuer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYU2QLBsZ58): Worlds 1997
Kazakova & Dmitriev (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gIBchcmnpk): Olys 1998
Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5fWd7Fu5o): Worlds 1998, 1999, Olys 2002
Petrova & Tikhonov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbQf2iSpYfA&feature=player_detailpage#t=12s): Worlds 2000
Shen & Zhao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qqHEd0Bq9o): Worlds 2002, 2003, 2007, Olys 2010
Totmianina & Marinin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHxr-zsNEPg&feature=player_detailpage#t=27s): Worlds 2004, 2005, Olys 2006
Pang & Tong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd1o9AtW0uc): Worlds 2006, Worlds 2010
Savchenko & Szolkowy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqkCUEZBO8s&feature=player_detailpage#t=29s): Worlds 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012

hanca
06-27-2012, 04:05 PM
No poll? I want to vote!!!! ;)

allezfred
06-27-2012, 04:06 PM
I've no idea what you're talking about. :confused:

:saint:

blue_idealist
06-27-2012, 04:49 PM
I've been voting for Woetzel & Steuer, but I'm actually changing my vote to Kovarikova & Novotny. I re-watched their 1995 Worlds FS last night on youtube, and I didn't enjoy it. In my memory, they had been better than that.

Mafke
06-27-2012, 05:38 PM
Sticking with K/N. They had some nice programs but their winning effort wasn't so good.

W/S still have the trainwreck factor (often entertaining through odd/wrong choices) barely keeping them in.

julieann
06-27-2012, 05:43 PM
Voting for Petrova & Tikhonov this round.

They got two of their major golds (Euros 2000 and Worlds 2000) because of the lack of B/S not competing because of Berezhnaya's doping violation. The other Euro in 1999 was won after B/S dropped out after being in first after the short. They won their only Russian Championship in 2006 because T/M (the reigning champs for three years) dropped out.

judgejudy27
06-27-2012, 06:16 PM
Time for Woetzel & Steuer to go. Way outclassed in sheer quality by all remaining pairs, and they were inconsistent as heck to boot.

Vash01
06-27-2012, 08:34 PM
I've been voting for Woetzel & Steuer, but I'm actually changing my vote to Kovarikova & Novotny. I re-watched their 1995 Worlds FS last night on youtube, and I didn't enjoy it. In my memory, they had been better than that.

They were actually better in 92 when they won the world silver, than in 95 when they won the world title (over S&N). I never got to watch their 95 Euros' LP; I heard they were robbed. Still, they were pretty good overall- a bit slow but they presented themselves well.

I am voting for W&S this round. There are other pairs that were weak/borderline for me, but when the overall quality is compared, in my mind W&S had to go.

judgejudy27
06-27-2012, 08:45 PM
Here were the performances of the top 3 at the 1995 Europeans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy1Y0ZIp9zE Kovarikova & Novotny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z73t2cq2Rzg Woetzel & Steuer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QCfpDMlMZ4 Shishkova & Naumov

My results were Kovarikova & Novotny 1st, Shishkova & Naumov 2nd, and Woetzel & Steuer 3rd. S&N skated fairly well apart form the one mistake but their performance was a bit flat compared to Worlds, and even better skated their long program this year was a bit flat and below their potential too although they still deserved to win Worlds later with it with the performances the night of the long program come Worlds. Kovarikova & Novotny definitely had a very strong and confident skate even with the doubled triple toe, definitely the winners IMO. All top 3 teams had one moderate mistake, with W&S having a couple other shaky landings on top of that. It was a far better skate than their nightmarish Worlds melt down (when they went from 2nd to 5th) but definitely not a clean one, heck you never see clean LPs from W&S. Woetzel & Steuer's program was a blank, all one level of music and skating, an attempt of orginality but not an effective one, and as usual many of their elements and the quality of their lines dont compare. I love hearing the play by play guy say "Sandra was this a home town decision". Even to the non trained eye what happened is obvious.

Then the make up gold for K&N at Worlds when they didnt skate nearly as well and were marked over a flawless S&N, and the ring of horror both in judging and increasingly wretched skating for the pairs of the next few years was underway.

Macassar88
06-27-2012, 09:16 PM
Love the caption about Sale and Pelletier's loss.

Taso
06-27-2012, 09:22 PM
Then the make up gold for K&N at Worlds when they didnt skate nearly as well and were marked over a flawless S&N, and the ring of horror both in judging and increasingly wretched skating for the pairs of the next few years was underway.

The Ring of Horror of 90s/early 00s pairs judging indeed. Who is our Alberich?

blue_idealist
06-28-2012, 06:19 AM
They were actually better in 92 when they won the world silver, than in 95 when they won the world title (over S&N). I never got to watch their 95 Euros' LP; I heard they were robbed. Still, they were pretty good overall- a bit slow but they presented themselves well.

I am voting for W&S this round. There are other pairs that were weak/borderline for me, but when the overall quality is compared, in my mind W&S had to go.

You're right, K & N were better in '92. I just watched the LP. Oh well, my vote still stands.

briancoogaert
06-28-2012, 10:39 AM
Petrova & Tikhonov !!!

sk8ingcoach
06-28-2012, 01:49 PM
Very shocked the S/P are eliminated so early.... oh well

Cheylana
06-28-2012, 03:12 PM
I voted W&S again.