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Vagabond
06-30-2012, 04:13 PM
What's all this criticism on Irina for showing privately how she really felt.

Go back and read the thread.

She isn't being criticized for what she did privately. She's being criticized for what she did in public, including, in some instances, inside the arena itself.

os168
06-30-2012, 04:30 PM
Go back and read the thread.

She isn't being criticized for what she did privately. She's being criticized for what she did in public, including, in some instances, inside the arena itself.

I guess we have a different definition. I consider off the ice and KnC would be her private time. These days with cameras everywhere, people on mobile/twitter, there doesn't appear to be any privacy anymore, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist in theory. In anycase, I still don't think it is anything unsports man like. She is just being angry to herself. I seem to recall she and Michelle remained good friends. Maybe they relate to each other with the ups and downs they went through.

t.mann
06-30-2012, 05:15 PM
Another example: Plushenko doubled his flip in Torino!

Really? I just got a chill. lol

Vagabond
06-30-2012, 05:47 PM
I guess we have a different definition. I consider off the ice and KnC would be her private time. These days with cameras everywhere, people on mobile/twitter, there doesn't appear to be any privacy anymore, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist in theory.

Unsportsmanlike wherever there are other athletes, coaches, officials, or the like is not, and should not be considered private, regardless of whether the general public is also privy to the event. In Slutskaya's case, some of the instances were reportedly in full-view of the audience or in media interviews, so your point about "private time" is moot in any event.

Triple Butz
06-30-2012, 06:36 PM
Another example: Plushenko doubled his flip in Torino!

And left it out completely in Vancouver. If he had subbed his 2a with a 3f instead, it may have helped him edge Lysacek...

judgejudy27
06-30-2012, 07:21 PM
And left it out completely in Vancouver. If he had subbed his 2a with a 3f instead, it may have helped him edge Lysacek...

Plushenko skated stupid as heck in Vancouver. I wish he had lost before the Olympics, I think he needed a wake up call. I wasnt rooting for either Plushenko or Lysacek to win in Vancouver, but Plushenko would have been the lesser of the two evils.

Mafke
06-30-2012, 07:27 PM
And left it out completely in Vancouver. If he had subbed his 2a with a 3f instead, it may have helped him edge Lysacek....

Or he might have stumbled. Either way the result might have been less ... contentious.

judgejudy27
06-30-2012, 07:31 PM
Or he might have stumbled. Either way the result might have been less ... contentious.

They should have just given three silver medals or three bronze medals anyway. Nobody deserved the gold. Takahashi was the only great skater that night, but had glaring mistakes, but was still way underscored compared to Plushenko and Lysacek. Takahashi cant beat subpar Plushenko or quadless boring Evan with one fall, and in fact loses by over 10 points, but good Takahashi cant beat Chan with 3 or 4 falls. No wonder almost nobody over here watches figure skating anymore. :yikes:

berthesghost
06-30-2012, 07:58 PM
so... we've gone from Lepisto attempting a flutz, to the history of flips at the Olys, to Evan's quadless victory... is there any more proof needed that 5 days is still too long for the next round in these polls? :lol:

judgejudy27
06-30-2012, 08:01 PM
so... we've gone from Lepisto attempting a flutz, to the history of flips at the Olys, to Evan's quadless victory... is there any more proof needed that 5 days is still too long for the next round in these polls? :lol:

The polls go on way too long. It was evident 4 days ago Shizuka was gone, Chen would survive.

blue_idealist
06-30-2012, 08:08 PM
Yeah, make the polls only 3 days long.

smarts1
06-30-2012, 08:18 PM
If Plushy just did a three jump combo in Vancouver, he would have won gold. His cockiness combined with his watered downed content (even in the footwork sequences and his spins) really hurt him in Vancouver.

pollyanna
07-03-2012, 01:06 AM
I'm not chiming in to pass judgment in any direction, but to point out a fact: Terry Gannon said on the ABC video that was linked: "And Michelle Kwan backstage... we tried to get her for an interview, she has declined..."
It is a fact that Terry said that, but not a fact that she declined an interview, because she gave one to Lesley Visser a few minutes later. She may have declined to give one at the moment they first asked her, maybe because she was busy doing other things, but when she was ready, she gave the requested interview.

Triple Butz
07-03-2012, 01:48 AM
It is a fact that Terry said that, but not a fact that she declined an interview, because she gave one to Lesley Visser a few minutes later. She may have declined to give one at the moment they first asked her, maybe because she was busy doing other things, but when she was ready, she gave the requested interview.

Right. The interview happened, so the "delayed" would be the appropriate word. Not declined.

Coco
07-03-2012, 04:44 AM
But isn't it pretty standard for the team to be interviewed together? I seem to recall that set up after other Nationals.

So unless Terry Gannon is a liar / mistaken, she declined to be on camera with Tara and Nicole while Leslie interviewed them. I got the impression that was what she declined.

It looks like her interview with Leslie was subsequent to the interview with Tara and Nicole. In that interview, Michelle still seems to be very emotional, so I think that group interview was declined because she didn't feel physically able to keep it together?