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Cyn
06-23-2012, 03:22 AM
Bail automatically revoked....sentencing to be in ~90 days according to CBS news.

Lacey
06-23-2012, 03:29 AM
I heard sentencing within 90 days. Has to be evaluated by sexual pervert team, or something like that.

I hope they go after the officers and executives of the university also. It would seem to me that they lied and covered up.

CDANN1013
06-23-2012, 03:30 AM
According to WJAC-TV (Johnstown, PA), he was found not guilty of the counts that happened in the Penn State shower.

Lacey
06-23-2012, 03:32 AM
They couldn't prove what type of sex that was...what the red headed coach saw was not definitive, just sounds, gross.

BigB08822
06-23-2012, 04:34 AM
Isn't it ironic that the assault that seemingly started all of this, or at least what we heard about first, is the one to not get a conviction?

I have a feeling his true punishment will occur in prison, this was just the beginning.

barbk
06-23-2012, 04:42 AM
According to WJAC-TV (Johnstown, PA), he was found not guilty of the counts that happened in the Penn State shower.

Only one of those counts -- he was convicted of the other counts related to that.

What tough testimony for a jury to have to consider.

Twizzler
06-23-2012, 05:14 AM
Only one of those counts -- he was convicted of the other counts related to that.

What tough testimony for a jury to have to consider.

Which were the 3 counts where he was found not guilty?

Alex Forrest
06-23-2012, 05:17 AM
Thank goodness. It's not a time to celebrate but just to breathe a sigh of relief that justice was served. I hope his victims can get some peace out of this and it will help them move on. The monster has been caged for life. Time for healing to begin.

Twizzler
06-23-2012, 05:22 AM
The monster has been caged for life. Time for healing to begin.

Not yet- time to go after the countless number of others who knew and did NOTHING to bring him to justice more than a decade ago.

WindSpirit
06-23-2012, 10:29 AM
Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--jerry-sandusky-guilty-verdict-victims-heroes-penn-state-civil-suits-.html)


The verdict ended the fallacy that this was an area too devoted to Penn State football to render a fair and proper judgment. The anger at Sandusky was deeper than the outside world could fathom. There may have been a conspiracy to protect Sandusky in the highest levels of Penn State. That will be played out in legal proceedings against university officials, an independent investigation set for release next month and the inevitable slew of civil cases to come that will seek to tap into the school's $1.8 billion endowment. Probably not going to happen, but part of me wishes they went after Sandusky's wife, too. There's very little chance if any that she didn't know. She might have ignored it, repressed it, lied to herself about it, etc., but I don't believe she wasn't aware of it or at least suspicious of his behavior. He was raping those kids at home when she was there, too. One of the men testified he was calling her name from the basement, if I recall correctly. She might have not heard the kid, but when your husband locks himself with a minor in the basement and then the minor acts weird (which I'm sure they did at some point) or doesn't want to go to the basement in the first place, get fcuking curious, OK? And even if everything seems hanky dory, go and check on them from time to time. If the door is closed, that's your fcuking clue that's something shady is going on.

Many predators like him are able to do what he did for a looong time because no one says anything, even if they are suspicious or even saw anything. That's why it's important to go after those who knew, too.


In one haunting bit of testimony, Victim No. 4 recounted that he compartmentalized the sexual abuse from Sandusky and endured teasing from classmates who suspected something inappropriate because he had so few positives in his life. The chance to leave his little town and troubled home for afternoons hanging around the Penn State football program were enough, he testified. :fragile:


Former Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary noted that he didn't punch out Sandusky when he discovered him in a shower abusing a boy in 2001 and instead let his university bosses handle the case. Which they didn't. A former Penn State police detective conveyed his frustration at not being able to convince the then-district attorney to charge Sandusky in 1998.

On and on it went. Years and years and years. Incident after incident after incident. It could have ended 13 years ago? The mind boggles.


Until finally, deep into a warm Friday night, Juror 4 stood up in that box, representing 11 other citizens that had poured over each and every allegation during 21 hours of deliberation, and read from those papers.

Finally, it was over for Sandusky. Finally, the deception and protection were gone. Finally, this once hulking man, backed by the prestige of Nittany Lion football, propped up by the illusion of charitable work, had nowhere to run, no tale to tell, no one capable of keeping him from facing the awful truth of his life.

Guilty. Guilty. Damn, Damn Guilty.

milanessa
06-23-2012, 11:08 AM
I wonder why he stopped. Don't most pedophiles offend throughout their lives? If he didn't stop then there are younger victims out there.

heckles
06-23-2012, 01:17 PM
If he didn't stop then there are younger victims out there.

I suspect there were, but they're too scared to come forward just yet. Some victims don't realize just how impacted they were until well into adulthood, sometimes their 30s or 40s. That's why it's surprising that in a lot of states, the victim has only until two years after hitting the age of majority--age 20-- to take legal action. In 2007, Pennsylvania raised their statute of limitations to the victim's 50th birthday. Hopefully, more states will do this.

PDilemma
06-23-2012, 05:06 PM
Good opinion piece about how we look at sports:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/23/opinion/jones-sandusky/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I agree with this so much. My father, the former super star high school athlete (he could have played professional baseball, but things didn't work out), constantly explains to us that this or that is different if it is in the context of sports. Hence his opinion that children in the shower with grown men is okay if it was a locker room. At the school I last taught at, the principal was the head football coach. Parents complained to the school board more than once that he called players "retard" and "dumb ass" and otherwise verbally berated them. It was deemed okay by the entire board because of "context"--in other words, as long as it happened on a football field or sideline it was okay. The male teacher who taught in the classroom next door to me constantly yelled at his students during class. A student was complaining in front of me one day that a female teacher "yelled" at them all the time and was just "harsh". I answered that Mr. Next Door yells constantly and this same student admired him. Response: "That's totally different than a woman doing it. He's a coach and he just goes into coach mode and you have to expect that. It doesn't make him a bad teacher."

There is a double standard in our society for sports. We have to let go of that or all kinds of abuses will continue to be overlooked on fields and courts and in locker rooms.

tarotx
06-23-2012, 05:35 PM
I'll never understand why Penn State hid this and did nothing.So many people reported Sandusky over a long period of time and nothing was done. It makes no sense. Sandusky was an institution at the school but he wasn't a school symbol. Them making sure kids were safe would have given much more a positive then whatever the Sandusky name was adding to the schools appeal.

Sandusky's wife should at least be prosecuted in the case of her own adopted son so I hope that goes forward. Children need to be safe from coaches but even more definitely from forester and adopted parents.It was the wife's responsibility to make sure the children under her care were protected. But also because she and he created a "safe" haven for children and then hurt and/or allowed children to be hurt, this is even more heartbreaking and ****ed up so they both need the book thrown at them!!!!

Sparks
06-23-2012, 06:43 PM
The Sandusky case has brought up many things for me.
In the '90's I worked along side an ex-priest who was a child molester.
Right after I met him, I attended his wedding where he became the father of 3 boys. He cried as the 3 boys walked down the aisle ahead of their mother. I was so creeped out - it was like he was marrying those children. After that, he started telling us "funny" stories of wrestling and showering with the boys. I got together with 2 other co-workers and made a call to CYFD. Nothing came of it.
He was working as a mental health professional and it was obvious he took a special interest in his vunerable, young male clients. Many of us complained to management. A client even filed a compliant, but everything was swept under the rug. He kept moving up the ranks, received awards, and had his photo taken with Senators, the Governor, etc. When we had to be fingerprinted by the FBI, *something* came up and he was put on suspension, BUT returned to work in no time.
His wife was a clueless, drunk woman who was, imo, happy that she had a husband to take care of her after her bitter divorce.
I, among others, continuously complained about him, and contacted the media numerous times.
Finally, the law caught up with him and he was charged with dozens of child molestations in Arizona and California when he was a priest. He was among several perpetrators who were shielded by the Church in Arizona.
He is currently in jail.
I'm still so disgusted at how everything was handled. As most pedophiles do, he hid in plain sight for over 12 years. He presented as such a helpful, Christian man. TPTB refused to see what he really was.
I hope that high profile cases can at least serve to wake people up as to the real nature of pedophiles. Yes, they work and live among us every day and everywhere. :mad: