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Coco
11-26-2012, 04:50 PM
I loved the flashback episode. Victoria is so vengeful!!! Interesting that they are setting up parallels between Victoria's habit of avenging wrongs done to her as a child with Amily's* need for revenge.

Journey without end indeed.

*do I mean Emanda? Which is which? I'm talking about the real Amanda Clark.

manhn
11-26-2012, 05:03 PM
That was a much better flashback episode than last year's.

Ashley was the one I was most interested in. How does one even get herself involve in such a scene?

my little pony
11-26-2012, 05:12 PM
i guess ashley didnt recognize emily's voice when she met her later. i'd be eternally grateful to the person who saved me from a liam neeson movie.

Coco
11-26-2012, 05:15 PM
I'm guessing she's so ashamed of being in that position that she's trying to block out details. But who knows what she'll remember in the future...

manhn
11-26-2012, 05:19 PM
And a bathroom in a nightclub is usually dark and noisy so she may not have been able to really hear Emily clearly. But I would keep that note with the phone number. Maybe Ashley is an expert in handwriting...

cruisin
11-26-2012, 05:54 PM
All of that leads one to question how did Emily and Ashley meet? I thought they were friends, from way back. If they already knew each other when the bathroom incident occurred, wouldn't she have recognized Emily's voice then?

my little pony
11-26-2012, 06:31 PM
if you cant get a job in a gallery, is internationally trafficked girl the next logical conclusion? i know, i know it's a soap opera but i couldnt stop laughing at ashley.

Artemis@BC
11-26-2012, 06:36 PM
All of that leads one to question how did Emily and Ashley meet? I thought they were friends, from way back. If they already knew each other when the bathroom incident occurred, wouldn't she have recognized Emily's voice then?

In the season opener I believe they said something about meeting in the context of some charity, I think for a museum or gallery. I got the impression that Ashley was in her party planner mode at that point, so definitely after this encounter. Plus I also got the impression that Emily had not yet solidified her identity as socialite lady-of-leisure at the point of this flashback episode.

Coco
11-26-2012, 07:24 PM
I can't remember when I started texting, but I guess it was reasonable to expect someone who struggled to pay rent would have texting on their phone in 2006 ... barely :)

*Jen*
11-26-2012, 07:39 PM
All of that leads one to question how did Emily and Ashley meet? I thought they were friends, from way back. If they already knew each other when the bathroom incident occurred, wouldn't she have recognized Emily's voice then?

Ahh, if only my memory was this good when it came to my studies...

Emily and Ashley met at a charity thing about 6 months before the series started. However, when Aiden asked her the other week how she'd 'picked up' Ashley, she said she'd found her 6 years ago and that she was an easy target. Aiden replied something like 'Are you sure she wasn't too easy?' Could be more to Ashley than we know...but interesting that Aiden didn't recognise her given that he was so interested in saving girls and avenging his sister. Maybe he did, and there's more to that too...


I can't remember when I started texting, but I guess it was reasonable to expect someone who struggled to pay rent would have texting on their phone in 2006 ... barely :)

I first got a phone in 2001 and started texting in...2001. I think I'm around the same age as Ashley and Emily are supposed to be, and as a university grad in 06, there is NO WAY I wouldn't have had a phone given I was looking for a job. I know texting wasn't as popular in the US until later, but Ashley is English. Texting is second nature!

cruisin
11-26-2012, 09:05 PM
In the season opener I believe they said something about meeting in the context of some charity, I think for a museum or gallery. I got the impression that Ashley was in her party planner mode at that point, so definitely after this encounter. Plus I also got the impression that Emily had not yet solidified her identity as socialite lady-of-leisure at the point of this flashback episode.

I wasn't sure how far back that went. Most of the pre- lady of leisure flashbacks have Emily with dark hair. Last night's she was blonde.

manhn
11-26-2012, 09:20 PM
In the series premier (or the second episode), it had been established that Emily and Ashley met during some Art gallery function or society (the same one where Lydia's husband and his mistress were members). So, Emily merely pushed Ashley to that sphere at the night club.

*Jen*
11-26-2012, 09:47 PM
I wasn't sure how far back that went. Most of the pre- lady of leisure flashbacks have Emily with dark hair. Last night's she was blonde.

I think the hair is supposed to symbolise her commitment to her mission. Her hair was dark while she believed her father was guilty, and then while she did the first groundwork on the Graysons and realised they're just as bad and decided to commit to revenge, she went blonde again.

It also helps to show the lapse of time - the colour, length and style vary.

Artemis@BC
11-26-2012, 10:19 PM
I think the hair is supposed to symbolise her commitment to her mission. Her hair was dark while she believed her father was guilty, and then while she did the first groundwork on the Graysons and realised they're just as bad and decided to commit to revenge, she went blonde again.

It also helps to show the lapse of time - the colour, length and style vary.

I don't think the hair colour is "symbolic" in any way, except when it was dark it was when she was in her dark & moody teen stage. The changing colour & style does help to indicate time though.

She had dark hair in that picture that Lydia had, didn't she? The one that nearly got her busted? I think that was circa 2004 or thereabouts.

Odd that she'd pick blonde for Emily, though, when Amanda as a child was blonde. You'd think she'd go for something more different.

BTW, no one else has commented on the fact that we got to see The World's Oldest Dog again in the flashback episode! And seeing the backstory to this new business at the Stowaway ... well, I still don't give a crap, but at least it does explain what's going on there. Plus the parallels are interesting -- both Jack and Emanda are paying for their father being wrongly accused (tho obviously in different ways and to different degrees).

rfisher
11-26-2012, 10:43 PM
Victoria and Conrad are every bit as devious as Emanda. I loved the elaborate sting they did with her mother. They are my favorite characters on the program.

Now, what is Nolan's old bf going to do with Dannyboy? Poor Nolan. He gets screwed no matter what's happening.

I don't trust Aiden.

I don't think anybody on the show is trustworthy except Amanda to Jack and Nolan and Nolan to Amanda. And Jack. Everybody else is :2faced: