View Full Version : 2012 Japan Open, Oct. 6th, 2012

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10-08-2012, 12:43 PM
I haven't watched all programs but so far I thought ...

Mao's Swan Lake was gorgeous and suits her very well. Her jumps still look a bit iffy in places and she could use some more power but I think she is on the right track.

I am not a fan of Ashley's program. For me there is too much weird staring/glaring, too much arm movement and too much posing/stop&go. The two stops during her footwork especially bother me. She will probably add changes to the program just like last year and I am sure it will improve, but I find that her movements in general lack the polish that Mao and other top skaters have.

I enjoyed the first half of Akiko's program but it somehow seemd a bit lost towards the end. She looked a little like she had an off day but I am sure she will be in great form for the Grand Prix. Her basic skating is :swoon:

Dai seems to be in great form this early in the season, happy to see him attempt two quads in the LP! The men seem to be a lot more open now than a year ago and he seems determined to give Patrick some serious competition. I like the program but I think he has had better LPs in the past. And pleeeease get rid of that costume :-)

Patrick - that was painful to watch and it must have been hard for him to skate this to the end. I think it's a fantastic program, very complex and difficult. It has a lot of potential when skated better. He looked very off. I guess we will have to wait and see how he does at his next competition to know whether this was just an off day or if it's more than that.

Overall I was impressed by the quality some of the skaters have shown this early in the season. Can't wait for the GP to start!

10-08-2012, 07:02 PM
Jeff Buttle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADGQ-Fq7s6c (a little watered down, but clean)

I love this Buttle program.

10-08-2012, 07:41 PM
Lurved, lurved, lurved Mao's program.

Ashley's program has a lot of potential, but to my eyes still needs quite a bit of polish. However, I felt this way about her "Black Swan" program last year at first glance, so I'm sure it will develop nicely.

I love Suzuki, but not this program. :shuffle:

Not really sure what I think of Takahashi's program. I don't think it really shows off his inherent musicality.

Kozuka's "Rondo" is vastly superior to Plushy's. Although props to Plushy for doing 2 quads and a superb 3A. The last minute of Plushenko's program was a hot mess though. All the good things in the first part revert back to the awful loose limbed flailing in the choreographed footwork sequence.

:respec: for Buttle. Amazing skating. Wishful thinking he'd want to come back next season. *sigh*

Chan's program could be brilliant, but it was far, far, far from that at this comp.

10-08-2012, 07:55 PM
Do you know, who did Takahashi LP choreo?

10-08-2012, 08:05 PM
Do you know, who did Takahashi LP choreo?

Shae-Lynn Bourne choreographed it about one month ago in Canada.

10-08-2012, 08:07 PM
TAT had to change and finish the choreo of Swan Lake in August because of the change of the rules. TAT was angry enough about the timing of big rule changes (like ChSq and spins) to write a letter to Cinquanta. Maybe TAT think big changes of rules should have done two seasons before the Olympics.
Mao used to be given new programs in spring. So she had less time this year to practice her Swan Lake. Of course she was nervous at the first international competition but there was another reason. I can't wait to see her perfect Swan Lake like good wine being matured in the later season.:rollin:

It is so nice to see Mao skate so well! It almost brought tears to my eyes, after watching her struggle the last two years, tragedy in her personal life, etc. After she becomes comfortable with this new program, it's going to be a gem.

10-08-2012, 08:08 PM
Shae-Lynn Bourne choreographed it about one month ago in Canada.

Thank you :)

Frau Muller
10-08-2012, 08:34 PM
Just saw Akiko's program and peacock dress. What a dress. WOW.

Mao's dress rather blah. Also, she was a bit cautious and slow but the program has potential. As always, lovely flow from Mao. She just needs some ooomph and 'guts.'

10-08-2012, 08:58 PM
Jeffrey Buttle :swoon:
I just absolutely love this guys pro work. Arguably skating better now than before he retired!

Oh my. Only now got to it. Talk about uplifting. That's uplifting in the best sense. As was previously said in the thread- exquisite.

10-09-2012, 05:31 AM
I wasn't inclined to watch Jeffrey's program. So far this season, I have exited most vids before the program was over. BUT I AM GLAD I decided to watch Jeffrey's. What skating, what a program!!!!!

Re Chan, maybe he is attempting programs that are too difficult and complex for him now.
Excuse the jump failures all "you" want, but very few are going to look at a program with multiple falls and think it great skating, no matter what the skater's other skating skills might be.

10-09-2012, 09:32 AM
Buttle looked great - and a 3A!! He's really kept his skills up which is pretty impressive.

10-09-2012, 03:12 PM
I adore Mao and I am so glad that she seems to be coming back to life but I'm not in love with her Swan Lake program, at least not yet. Hopefully her new LP will grow on me though as the season progresses.

10-09-2012, 05:44 PM
I adore Mao and I am so glad that she seems to be coming back to life but I'm not in love with her Swan Lake program, at least not yet. Hopefully her new LP will grow on me though as the season progresses.

The theme for this year seems to be 'boring...old school programs'. I'm struggling to engage in some of this stuff and find myself fast forwarding or stopping the stream saying to myself "I've seen enough...NEXT"

Don't think Suzuki's completely works but has some potential. Applause for doing something a bit different. Love Alena's dress and the music is good, too. I'd like to see that program develop.

10-09-2012, 05:46 PM
Buttle :swoon:
oh, how I'd love to see him at Worlds and in Sochi...

I really like Mao's Swan Lake. Ashley's S&D - not so much, unfortunately... it seems to me S&D joins the group of overused muzaks :P.

love Akiko's costume :D.

Gede is a rockstar, even with that many jump mistakes. Leonova was a hot mess.
Plushenko - I'm not sure if this "the best of Saint Saens" free works well, but he deserves respect for his amazing jumping abilities (2 quads at 30 - wow!).

Chan - finally, a good programme! I'm not his fan, but I'm so glad he went beyond obvious music choices, decided to skate 2 new programmes this season and expanded his artistic scope. hopefully, jumps m.i.a. was a mere blunder.

Takahashi - honestly, I'm a bit disappointed. less dancing, more dramatic arms flailing plus typical Morozovian crap costume - hmm...

Frau Muller
10-09-2012, 06:00 PM
....love Akiko's costume :D.

That is THE DRESS of the year, so far. :glamor: