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CantALoop
10-08-2012, 03:50 AM
Hey Jeff, you know it's not too late to come back for Sochi. :shuffle:

I'll drink to that! :40beers: Jeffrey was smooth like butter :swoon:

I kind of like Ashley's dress color - it reminds me of a California poppy.

jettasian
10-08-2012, 04:40 AM
Patrick tends to make big mistakes early in the season... Nice to see he didn't get first with that

Of course he didn't get first if others skated better than him :rolleyes:

jettasian
10-08-2012, 04:44 AM
Wait - Chan fell four times and did not win a competition??? What has happened to the sport of Figure Skating?????

Tongue firmly in cheek...

I guess Chan haters can't bitch that he's winning with falls, it's time to use other means to insult Chan and the sport :rolleyes:

jettasian
10-08-2012, 04:48 AM
LOL @ Takahashi's costume. Part of it is a rip-off of Johnny Weir's Swan SP costume from the 2006 season. :rollin: Even though Dai skated his program extremely well for this early in the season, I am not in love with the music, the program, nor the costume. He does so many crossovers and the over-emoting and arm waving looks so contrived and phony, JMO.

Over the top costume suits his over the top hands and arms and heads and facial expressions very well. Yeah, ARTISTIC! :rolleyes:

stevlin
10-08-2012, 04:50 AM
Jeffrey Buttle :swoon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HRcile3Pr8&feature=plcp
I just absolutely love this guys pro work. Arguably skating better now than before he retired!

Jeff is still my favorite skater. Every move he does is beautiful. I wish I could see the Japan open where he won gold.

rosewood
10-08-2012, 04:54 AM
How does an experienced skater on the level of Mao (or is it her choreographer's and coach's fault) lose points by repeating a spin? That being said, it was great to see her skating with such confidence.

TAT had to change and finish the choreo of Swan Lake in August because of the change of the rules. TAT was angry enough about the timing of big rule changes (like ChSq and spins) to write a letter to Cinquanta. Maybe TAT think big changes of rules should have done two seasons before the Olympics.
http://winter.sport-express.ru/figureskating/reviews/24762/
Mao used to be given new programs in spring. So she had less time this year to practice her Swan Lake. Of course she was nervous at the first international competition but there was another reason. I can't wait to see her perfect Swan Lake like good wine being matured in the later season.:rollin:

barbk
10-08-2012, 05:03 AM
Love the fluidity of Mao's Swan Lake. Was one of the spin problems that she didn't get her hip low enough in the sit position to count?

Not a fan of Ashley's costume color, but delighted to see her skating with power and control, especially right after Mao has delivered a great program.

Marco
10-08-2012, 06:48 AM
OK so Wagner has beaten Asada in their last 3 head-to-head competitions, and this time with Asada skating quite well. Who would think they were neck and neck in PCS? :shuffle:

Wagner's program was nice - I especially like the timing of the layback spin. I think she might have been a little behind near the end, causing the rushing through of the Choreographic Sequence. This can be good come Nationals and Worlds (hopefully). Still, I was hoping to see yet a little more details below the ankle. Her arms and upper body were always busy, but she really could use more edges and one footed turns.

The new COP rules is killing her spins though. I HATE that she has to hop within her deathdrop, which used to be so fast and tight but is now slowing to a halt. Same for the change of foot in her combo spin - it was so small it wans't even given credit. Perhaps it's time to rethink the spins.

Sad to see too little progress on fixing the flutz and her 2axel is still problematic. Perhaps a 3loop3toe or a 3toe-2axel sequence would be easier for her than the 2axel3toe. The 3loop3toe could also be used in the short program so she wouldn't have to train 2 money tricks.

Asada's program was great. Her lightness is back. If anything, I would like her to work on her arms. They are too weak. Not soft, weak. There was too little tension and the overall impact of her positions was lessened. I hope the spin issue was a brain fart like what Yuna Kim did at 2009 Worlds, not a mis-calculation by TAT. Hate to see TAT losing her touch.

Suzuki's program was ... okay. I will need some more time to get into it. Her programs last season were too impressive for comparison to be honest.

rosewood
10-08-2012, 06:49 AM
Was one of the spin problems that she didn't get her hip low enough in the sit position to count?

No, she began the same CCoSp as she already did, then she noticed her mistake and she arranged the rest of the seq. Mao said "I made a mistake with my spins." and talked about what she did with Dai at the K&C.

MR-FAN
10-08-2012, 06:52 AM
Awww! Gedevanishvilli's LP is so charming! Loved it.

And as a sign of the apocalypse, I didn't hate Plushenko's program! It might be the lack of the violin-on-crack Edvin Marton music, but it's the first time I've enjoyed something from him since his Nijinsky program

Marco
10-08-2012, 06:55 AM
:drama: about Chan's mistakes, but it was a great program. So good that I am already hoping he would re-use it next season.

Takahashi's program was better in the second half. The first half was kind of bland.

Sad to see Kozuka coming up with a new program because I loved his program last season, but this new one isn't half bad. He will again need to work hard on his expressions. Glad to see him relatively solid so early in the season. If Oda returns strongly this season, I have a sense he is the one who will need to worry about it.

Buttle was surreal. Is he already ineligible for Sochi? :P

npavel
10-08-2012, 07:19 AM
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU4NjQ2NzYw.html

every skaters!
password:2012JO

wow, thank you :cheer::cheer2:

AndyWarhol
10-08-2012, 08:48 AM
No, she began the same CCoSp as she already did, then she noticed her mistake and she arranged the rest of the seq. Mao said "I made a mistake with my spins." and talked about what she did with Dai at the K&C.

I thought perhaps the second spin was perhaps meant to be a layback, and she went into the camel by mistake.. just by the way it ended in a beilman. My theory anyway.

spikydurian
10-08-2012, 10:51 AM
I'd like to think that he's flourished without the pressure of constant training, competition and expectations. :) If he's happy, what does it matter? I was shocked he did the 3ax here, considering it's never been a great jump for him - and still has all his transitions and WHEEE! :rollin:
I think so too. Without pressure of competition, Jeff can truly do what he likes and showcase his strengths. In competition, we must fulfill the criteria to win. He was a delight to watch during his competition years and he, very much like Browning, has grown from strength to strength post competition.

maureenfarone
10-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Awww! Gedevanishvilli's LP is so charming! Loved it.

And as a sign of the apocalypse, I didn't hate Plushenko's program! It might be the lack of the violin-on-crack Edvin Marton music, but it's the first time I've enjoyed something from him since his Nijinsky program

:lol::lol::scream::scream: