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Chris_E
10-07-2012, 05:23 PM
Ashley's freeskate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJMDkYMfy7c&feature=channel&list=UL


Thanks for the link. I was hoping I'd wake up to this today :)

Great skate and I really enjoyed the program. I think it is still probably a work in progress. She added little bits of choreography to "Black Swan" last year and I expect her to do the same with this one as she becomes stronger throughout the season. All in all a great start to her season.

kwanfan1818
10-07-2012, 05:33 PM
Plush has a haircut :)
Looks great :)

orbitz
10-07-2012, 05:43 PM
That's so funny, or ridiculous, when the Plushy's haters trying to belittle him.:D He won the ECH in this year, and he got very high scores, don't you remember?:confused: Or the ECH wasn't under the IJS? And look at the protochols of JO!


It's not difficult to place above Brezina and a very sub-par Chan, and it's not belittling Plushy to observe that his non-jumping elements were not at the same level as Dai, Buttle, and Chan. Plushy didn't skate with the same ease as those I mentioned.



And his hair one of his trade marks!! Didn't you like it?

I like the haircut. The layer and shorter length in the back lighten up his hair.

shan
10-07-2012, 05:49 PM
Ashley's freeskate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJMDkYMfy7c&feature=channel&list=UL

I like it for the most part but the dress is gross and she has way too many spots where she's stopping to pull faces and pose for the judges.


I really like most of Ashley's LP. The beginning and middle are very good, but the last minute or so doesn't seem to work as well. But I'm sure it will improve with each comp. Most of all, I'm impressed with the confidence and attack that she is showing.

danafan
10-07-2012, 05:50 PM
Wait - Chan fell four times and did not win a competition??? What has happened to the sport of Figure Skating?????

Tongue firmly in cheek...

martyross
10-07-2012, 06:05 PM
Aashley's skating is highly seducing as a Dalilah should be. go my girl!!

oleada
10-07-2012, 06:06 PM
Wait - Chan fell four times and did not win a competition??? What has happened to the sport of Figure Skating?????


COP ruins everything!!!1 ;)

pinky166
10-07-2012, 06:21 PM
Ashley looks great and there's still room for improvement with adding in either a 3-3 or 2a-3t, which I assume she plans to do. Awesome start to the season though, her flutz even looks better, and I actually like the dress! The cut and design are gorgeous, I agree deep purple might be a better color choice, but in that video it was more orange and less glaringly yellow than the photos suggested so it was already a big improvement. :cheer: so excited the season is here :cheer2: !

jenny12
10-07-2012, 06:23 PM
I really like most of Ashley's LP. The beginning and middle are very good, but the last minute or so doesn't seem to work as well. But I'm sure it will improve with each comp. Most of all, I'm impressed with the confidence and attack that she is showing.

Yeah, I love Ashley and like her new program overall. However, I think the, like you, that the last minute needs to have more of an impact. Also, the arm movements are a little too much. Hopefully, she and her coach will reign that in as the season progresses. I love her acting when she skates, IMO her expression is probably the best of the ladies right now.

Too bad Chan fell so much but his program is gorgeous. As program themselves, I think his La Boheme and Mao's Swan Lake have the potential to be really great. They both have great choreography the whole way through and don't just glide from jump to jump. However, Chan's jump failures were really disastrous. I'm glad the judges gave him the scores he deserved and I'm sure he work out the kinks eventually this season.

all_empty
10-07-2012, 06:37 PM
ASHLEY - what a masterpiece of an LP!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJMDkYMfy7c&feature=channel&list=UL

Nobody has EVAH come up with so powerful and perfect a program to this music. For 40+ years I've dreamt that someone would 'get it right' with the Samson & Delilah Bacchanale music. Finally!

Samson & Delilah - First came Peggy Fleming with the perfect skate to 'Mon Coeur' (the soft tune) and now Ashley Wagner with the perfect Bacchanale...and even a bit of 'Mon Coeur' in the middle!

I'm not sure Ashley's is "perfect" ... yet. It's a little too stop and go for my taste, and her jump timings still feel hurried.

This is one of my favorite pieces of music, but many skaters have done a great job with it before:

Notably, Joannie Rochette at this very event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzxIv0iQhWA (a perfect program, and in my opinion, the best COP ladies program in recent history)

Kristi Yamaguchi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmt6AHYfk8 (as close to perfect as Kristi can get)

Jeff Buttle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADGQ-Fq7s6c (a little watered down, but clean)

I believe Evan Lysacek is skating to this music too, and he was quoted as saying this is a piece not a lot of skaters use ... um right. :rolleyes:

skatesindreams
10-07-2012, 06:51 PM
Jeffrey Buttle :swoon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HRcile3Pr8&feature=plcp
I just absolutely love this guys pro work. Arguably skating better now than before he retired!

That program/performance was a joy.
His reaction was wonderful, too.

lauravvv
10-07-2012, 07:18 PM
I saw somewhere that Miki's LP might be Black Swan? So if it is, then she is a bird as well!No, that was her exhibition. I am quite sure that the LP is something else.


Fortunately, I didn't look at Dai's new program thinking, "Oh no, choreographed by Morozov."From your post I am not sure if you know this, but it was not choreographed by Morozov. Shae-Lynn Bourne choreographed it. Although I agree that it looks a bit like Morozov program - most likely he had his input in it too.

Cloudy_Gumdrops
10-07-2012, 08:39 PM
Ashley's dress looks so much better on the video than in pictures. I don't like her program though. I found it pretty boring. I'm glad she's continuing to skate so well though.

Vash01
10-07-2012, 08:46 PM
Pagliacci, by Leoncavallo, choreographed by Shae-Lynn Bourne

I can't find a link to Dai's LP in this thread. Is there one and I just keep missing it?

ETA:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=XbkSXwGLyMQ&NR=1

That's not Pagliacci. So we must be talking about different programs. May be this link is from last year?

floskate
10-07-2012, 09:19 PM
I can't find a link to Dai's LP in this thread. Is there one and I just keep missing it?

ETA:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=XbkSXwGLyMQ&NR=1

That's not Pagliacci. So we must be talking about different programs. May be this link is from last year?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJuEcIxhPfw&feature=channel&list=UL