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Twizzler
06-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Paul McIntosh developed Virtue & Moir and Andrew Poje. Their strong technical basics, edge quality, unison and partnering skills are all to his credit. Similarly, McIntosh coached Andrew Poje from an early age until he teamed with Kaitlyn Weaver and moved to Detroit.

I always thought that Igor's teams were technically weak, especially in the CD's, and this is one area that really improved since he teamed with Zueva.

Exactly.

sammyf
06-12-2012, 10:49 PM
I have NEVER known Natalia to tell someone to gain weight. EVER. Get stronger and increase muscle, maybe.


What should give them an edge this time, Belbin said, is something she would have never dreamed could help them: her newly found muscles and curves.

She can thank one of her coaches, Natalia Linichuk, for that...

Linichuk took one look at the 5-foot-6, 105-pound Belbin and said, “You need to gain 10 pounds.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/sports/olympics/17icedancers.html

rvi5
06-13-2012, 12:21 AM
I was re-watching the Short dance competition from Worlds in Nice (recorded from the Bold channel). During one of the ice resurfacing breaks, a brief spotlight bio of Marina and Igor was televised. Interviews with Meryl/Charlie and Marina/Igor were included. Igor indicated they have different strengths, which complement each other. He said they try to let each other use those strengths to the fullest extent. Marina nodded yes. In answer to a question regarding whether they could they have achieved their success without the other, Igor said he didn't think so. Their success was due to their collaboration. Marina said she didn't think it could happen separated.

...odd watching that interview, now knowing how events unfolded.

keep n spin n
06-13-2012, 12:28 AM
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jlai
06-13-2012, 12:31 AM
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120612&content_id=33179074&vkey=ice_news

So the Vbet can be settled. Igor keeping Chock/Bates

Sylvia
06-13-2012, 12:32 AM
"Shpilband moving to Novi [Michigan], bringing Chock and Bates": http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120612&content_id=33179074&vkey=ice_news

cruisin
06-13-2012, 12:40 AM
Coated specialized in blade skills and compulsory dances. Shpliband's forte as a technical coach is point-getting elements, and until the judges scores reflect lack of line, toe-point, turnout, finish, unison, and ease of the blade, then the Shpilband brand of technique will be more important than the Coated brand of techniqu

Depressing, I think. Basic skating skills should have equal weight.



The problem is more that Marina and Igor couldn't really figure out what to do with a sibling team, and I hope the Shibs will eventually find someone who can.

Just responding to the sibling thing, I have heard it from several officials and coaches that sibling teams don't feel right at a certain age.



I always thought that Igor's teams were technically weak, especially in the CD's, and this is one area that really improved since he teamed with Zueva.

I totally agree.


L&T were very slow and their CD's always got them off to a bad start. Similarly B&A were weak in the CD's compared to the European teams. Linichuk greatly improved their speed, basic stroking and blade precision.

Yes, but in addition to not giving them great choreography, they lost the Igor politick factor.

TanithandBenFan
06-13-2012, 12:54 AM
"Shpilband moving to Novi [Michigan], bringing Chock and Bates": http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120612&content_id=33179074&vkey=ice_news

That's great news! Love this team and hope this will be a great opportunity for them to shine!!!!!

kirkbiggestfan
06-13-2012, 01:03 AM
Had to google skating club of Novi...not much on their site. Can anyone tell us more about the rink, club, geographic location?

Sylvia
06-13-2012, 01:06 AM
Had to google skating club of Novi...not much on their site. Can anyone tell us more about the rink, club, geographic location?
http://www.noviicearena.com/page/show/411366-contact

http://www.noviicearena.com/page/show/411368-skating-club-of-novi

cruisin
06-13-2012, 01:15 AM
^^ No info on any other coaches ho teach there. But, I suppose Igor will draw on his own. Novi must be thrilled.

martyross
06-13-2012, 01:16 AM
"My experience in Canton has been nothing but positive"

among all the PR formulas, this is the worst one!

rmaap
06-13-2012, 01:17 AM
Had to google skating club of Novi...not much on their site. Can anyone tell us more about the rink, club, geographic location?

2 sheets of ice in a suburban area near some major highways. Typical skating club and LTS to skate program - they usually host a couple of club competitions every year. Arena is about 15 years old and has lots of hockey too (it is located on Nick Lidstrom Drive, if that tells you anything.)

At Arctic, the dance program was not strongly tied to the fsc, I think (note we never really heard anything from the Arctic FSC.) I expect it will be the same at Novi. Don't most senior skaters represent their original club anyway? Detroit Skate Club (and to a lesser extent Ann Arbor) are the few powerhouse clubs left in the area with giant Board of Directors, payroll, etc.

Interestingly, Greg Zuerlein coaches a few days a week at Novi.

blue_idealist
06-13-2012, 01:41 AM
It's interesting that Chock and Bates decided to move with him. I think it might work to their advantage as they'll probably get more individual attention without the other, stronger teams like V/M and D/W around.

MacMadame
06-13-2012, 01:51 AM
I think he started coaching Madison Chock when she was in Intermediate. When he started working with Charlotte Lichtman, she was at the Junior level, but she was new to ice dance.
And that's pretty typical for ice dance. There are very few ice dance teams at the juvenile and intermediate level to the point that most years most, if not all, of them go to Junior Nationals because there are more slots than there are teams.

Many skaters don't go into ice dance until they are pretty advanced in the test structure for singles skating and moves in the field and they often jump into ice dance at the Junior and sometimes even Senior level.

There are a fair number of Novice teams and that's the first level where you don't just automatically go to Nationals because sometimes some sections have more teams than slots. But it's kind of crazy the number of teams that start ice dancing in the summer and are at Sectionals in the Fall competing at the Junior level. (Well, it seems crazy to me. :lol:)

I would say, based on how ice dance works in the US, and based on what other coaches do, that Shpilband has definitely been a developmental coach particularly when he first started out (in the late 90s).