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Libertango
08-06-2012, 09:07 PM
Isn't Sam Kaplun skating with Taylor Tran in Ann Abor?

Ziggy
08-06-2012, 11:13 PM
Is Peter Gerber (POL) pictured here with a new partner?

This now-archived profile of Baily Carroll/Peter Gerber (POL) states "Partnership ended 2011": http://www.ice-dance.com/athletes/team-profiles/profile-archive/918-profile-baily-carroll-a-peter-gerber

Yep, Baily Carroll has quit skating last Winter, IIRC.

Peter Gerber might be training with Justyna Plutowska at the moment. I'm not sure if I can recognise her on that photo, though. If they are together and training with Shpilband, that would be amazing news. :)

MacMadame
08-07-2012, 08:30 AM
That's not optimal though, isn't it?

Ideally you'd want your skaters to have one session in the morning and another later during the day, right?

That's not how the ice dance ice times work around here. In fact, it sounds like he has quite a bit of ice time, more than many dance programs get.

Asli
08-07-2012, 09:44 AM
Zhulin complained about it publically at the time. There was an interview with translations posted here. There was also the Ice Network interview with I&K. This information may be new to you, but anyone who followed the threads around the shift of Worlds to Moscow would have been aware of it.

That was a time when I was devouring everything on the FSU related to ice dance and especially to I/K, yet I have read nothing about their taking a vacation when the Tokyo Worlds were cancelled. I remember the interview with Tarasova where she said they had been given too long a vacation during the previous summer, not between the two dates for the worlds.

Besides, Zhulin is very unlikely to disparage his star Russian team only weeks before the Moscow worlds. He comes from a generation of ice dancers for whom appearances were everything.

If anyone else remembers such interviews or if you can give a link, then I'll believe it, but otherwise such surprising information could hardly fall under the radar.

This is not to say that I/K's work ethics are immaculate - actually I've "heard" that she is not the hardest worker. However, this doesn't mean we should start urban legends about the extents of the problem.

emilieh
08-08-2012, 02:21 PM
Yep, Baily Carroll has quit skating last Winter, IIRC.

Peter Gerber might be training with Justyna Plutowska at the moment. I'm not sure if I can recognise her on that photo, though. If they are together and training with Shpilband, that would be amazing news. :)

AFAIK, Peter Gerber is skating with someone named Justyna, so I suppose it's the Justyna you've mentioned. I heard that they were training with Igor at some point, although I hadn't heard if it was a permanent move.

AJ Skatefan
08-08-2012, 11:07 PM
That was a time when I was devouring everything on the FSU related to ice dance and especially to I/K, yet I have read nothing about their taking a vacation when the Tokyo Worlds were cancelled. I remember the interview with Tarasova where she said they had been given too long a vacation during the previous summer, not between the two dates for the worlds.

Besides, Zhulin is very unlikely to disparage his star Russian team only weeks before the Moscow worlds. He comes from a generation of ice dancers for whom appearances were everything.

If anyone else remembers such interviews or if you can give a link, then I'll believe it, but otherwise such surprising information could hardly fall under the radar.

This is not to say that I/K's work ethics are immaculate - actually I've "heard" that she is not the hardest worker. However, this doesn't mean we should start urban legends about the extents of the problem.

Thanks.

Ziggy
08-09-2012, 05:19 PM
AFAIK, Peter Gerber is skating with someone named Justyna, so I suppose it's the Justyna you've mentioned. I heard that they were training with Igor at some point, although I hadn't heard if it was a permanent move.

From what I have heard, he is skating with Justyna Plutowska:
http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010546.htm

I am surprised there were no better options for him available on Ice Partner Search.

Plutowska is a Polish citizen but she is the skater who got a partner and training conditions arranged in Moscow but left after the first day because the training was too hard. :drama:

:rolleyes: :wall:

Sylvia
08-10-2012, 08:26 PM
Cross-posting this new article on Zoueva's teams in Canton:

According to this article, Oleg Epstein is working with Marina Zoueva on choreography for team Canton.

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120810&content_id=36449936&vkey=ice_news
Excerpts:

... And at Canton's Arctic Edge, Fusar-Poli's former partner, Maurizio Margaglio, has been schooling Marina Zoueva's teams in the Yankee Polka, the required pattern in this season's short dance.

"The biggest challenge for the teams is the compulsories (pattern dances), and I called Maurizio because he has great knowledge of compulsories and has done a lot of ISU seminars," Zoueva said. "He can come only from time to time, because he also has a contract with the Finnish skating federation."
...

[Charlie] White added that an initial report suggesting the top Canton ice dancers had requested Shpilband's ouster was not accurate.

"Unfortunately, the first newspaper article in the Detroit Free Press was very incorrect," he said. "The author never interviewed us and we never said what was attributed to us there. We still adore Igor and we are very grateful for all of the work he did for us over many years."

Davis stressed that whatever differences Zoueva and Shpilband may have had, they remained professional during sessions with the skaters.

"We had felt before that there were tensions between them, but that did not affect our training," she said. "We made the decision to stay with Marina because she has done more of our choreography lately, and she stayed in Canton."

In addition to Margaglio, Oleg Epstein, the Chicago-based choreographer and coach, is working on a near full-time basis in Canton, helping Zoueva plan programs and elements. While he will return to Chicago on occasion, some of his students, including U.S. junior champion Gracie Gold, will visit him in Canton.

ETA: There are also quotes by the Shibutanis and Tessa Virtue about their coaches' split.

UMBS Go Blue
08-10-2012, 08:34 PM
Lurrrrrrrrrrve how "THE STARE" is the image they use for F-P/M in the IceNetwork article. :rofl: :watch:

VIETgrlTerifa
08-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Barbara vs. Maurizuo through ice dance students? Talk about a fan's dream.

Macassar88
08-10-2012, 08:46 PM
Lurrrrrrrrrrve how "THE STARE" is the image they use for F-P/M in the IceNetwork article. :rofl: :watch:

I love the softer eye joke

caseyedwards
08-13-2012, 12:17 AM
All I remember was Nikita complaining that Zhulin wasn't around enough for their coaching & claiming that they had to work out lifts by looking at other skaters on youtube, and Zhulin countering with general comments about them not always having a great work ethic. You may be confusing his comments with TAT's earlier in the season about them having too much of a break over the summer before the 2010-11 season, but as I said before, that was largely due to Nikita's back problems.

This is entirely correct and a very common occurrence where info is blended to create a wrong impression about someones disliked skaters.

Dragonlady
08-13-2012, 09:05 PM
This is entirely correct and a very common occurrence where info is blended to create a wrong impression about someones disliked skaters.

It's entirely incorrect to assume anyone who posts something negative about a skater, dislikes that skater. Just because you like a skater, it's quite possible to be disappointed in some aspect of their personality or style but still like the skater.

I was a huge fan of one skater in particular who had a notoriously bad work ethic. I knew this was the root of this skater's inconsistency, and while I wished said skater had worked harder throughout their competitive career, it never happened. Oh what might have been.

allezfred
08-14-2012, 10:40 AM
I was a huge fan of one skater in particular who had a notoriously bad work ethic. I knew this was the root of this skater's inconsistency, and while I wished said skater had worked harder throughout their competitive career, it never happened. Oh what might have been.

Eman?

kimkom
08-14-2012, 11:56 PM
Eman?

That was my guess too.

He broke my heart more often than any man I ever dated. :wall: