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kwanatic
06-08-2012, 08:22 PM
What if she was proud how well she is doing and how hard she is trying, and then someone who doesn't even know her comes and just start slagging her off? Why should she let other people walk over her just so that she looks classy? I prefer assertive approach. If the professor is sure about his facts, he won't loose the lawsuit. If he isn't sure about the facts and just slagged her off, serves him right.

Someone with as much success as Yu-Na shouldn't care if a teacher, who she doesn't even take class from, says she's slagging off. Who gives a crap? I honestly can't even see a judge taking this lawsuit seriously if it actually went to court. It's like a 2nd grader suing their classmate b/c they called them a poo-poo head...and agreeing not to sue if they stand on the monkey bars at the playground and apologize.:rolleyes:

Like I said, I think Yu-Na is above this and I seriously doubt it was her choice to retaliate to this professor's comments by suing him. More than likely this is her management's doing. It's situations like this and the whole Orser-split thing that really make me question the professionalism and experience of ATS and their staff. Rather than calm and strategic PR specialists, they seem like impulsive over-protective petty amateurs with the way they handle these kinds of situations.

bek
06-08-2012, 08:53 PM
Someone with as much success as Yu-Na shouldn't care if a teacher, who she doesn't even take class from, says she's slagging off. Who gives a crap? I honestly can't even see a judge taking this lawsuit seriously if it actually went to court. It's like a 2nd grader suing their classmate b/c they called them a poo-poo head...and agreeing not to sue if they stand on the monkey bars at the playground and apologize.:rolleyes:
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Apparently though the media took it seriously and it became a HUGE uproar that the professor said this. When they asked the professor some serious question, he said I don't know. I guess it depends. I do agree that sometimes its best not to be petty. I actually DO think the professor is unfair to make a public example of someone like that. And I also think once again, she IS asking only to teach a subject that she's frankly more than quailfied to teach-skating. She's not trying to be a lawyer or a doctor.

kwanatic
06-08-2012, 09:19 PM
Apparently though the media took it seriously and it became a HUGE uproar that the professor said this. When they asked the professor some serious question, he said I don't know. I guess it depends. I do agree that sometimes its best not to be petty. I actually DO think the professor is unfair to make a public example of someone like that. And I also think once again, she IS asking only to teach a subject that she's frankly more than quailfied to teach-skating. She's not trying to be a lawyer or a doctor.

This is the main reason they should have just let it go. OR if they felt the need to respond, they should have released a statement from Yu-Na debunking the professor's claim.

In instances of PR, cooler heads must prevail. "I'm gonna sue you!" is the knee-jerk reaction. The smarter thing would have been to stop and say, "Now how can we use this rumor/accusation to our advantage and make Yu-Na look even better all while making this professor look like an ass?"

They could have used it as an opportunity for Yu-Na to talk about the compromises she's forced to make while fulfilling her obligations and pursuing a degree. Or an opportunity for her to talk about how important it is to her to earn a degree even though she's already successful. There are a dozen ways they could have spun this story to turn it into "Yu-Na Kim, a young beautiful woman with tons of money and success is still determined to get her education no matter what her detractors think." The media would then take this angle and run with it...

ATS's people need to head back to PR school...their "react now, think later" approach is all wrong and does way more damage than good.

bek
06-08-2012, 09:30 PM
This is the main reason they should have just let it go. OR if they felt the need to respond, they should have released a statement from Yu-Na debunking the professor's claim.

In instances of PR, cooler heads must prevail. "I'm gonna sue you!" is the knee-jerk reaction. The smarter thing would have been to stop and say, "Now how can we use this rumor/accusation to our advantage and make Yu-Na look even better all while making this professor look like an ass?"

They could have used it as an opportunity for Yu-Na to talk about the compromises she's forced to make while fulfilling her obligations and pursuing a degree. Or an opportunity for her to talk about how important it is to her to earn a degree even though she's already successful. There are a dozen ways they could have spun this story to turn it into "Yu-Na Kim, a young beautiful woman with tons of money and success is still determined to get her education no matter what her detractors think." The media would then take this angle and run with it...

ATS's people need to head back to PR school...their "react now, think later" approach is all wrong and does way more damage than good.

Well this is true. I think maybe it is to because its mama handling this and not professionals...But then again this IS a different culture and I know very little about what is done in Korea.

DickButtonFan
06-08-2012, 09:34 PM
I'd really be mad if a professor was talking about me but at the same time it isn't fair if Yuna doesn't have to show up as often as the other students (if that's even the case).

bek
06-08-2012, 09:36 PM
I'd really be mad if a professor was talking about me but at the same time it isn't fair if Yuna doesn't have to show up as often as the other students (if that's even the case).

Apparently its a thing in Korea for athletes. But I actually think there's a strong argument that if an athlete is looking to coach her actual sport that its fine to use the normal time doing that sport is part of the credit. Lots of different college programs have similar "life experience" credit. Its hard to know.

martian_girl
06-08-2012, 09:39 PM
“The schools think that if an athlete performs well in his or her sport, that’s the best contribution to a school’s reputation,” said Oh Jae-Keun from the public relations department at Korea National Sport University. “They think of athletes as an advertisement for the school and don’t care about teaching them.”


Ah. So Korean Universities are a lot like American ones. :P

boogazie
06-08-2012, 11:20 PM
A important fact that some are missing:

It was not her professor who made the remark. It was some random professor from ANOTHER university.

With that said, I don't think it's right for an educator to criticize someone he doesn't know personally even if he was trying to make a point for the bigger picture. Given the brouhaha that was caused by his comments, it would be the right thing to apologize and retract the personal comments; something along the lines of:

"I never meant to attack you personally, what I said about education in our country and sport athletes still applies but I shouldn't have made an example out of you since I don't even know you personally"

There, was that so hard?

nursebetty
06-08-2012, 11:23 PM
I feel so sad for her and her poor, pitiful life. She is old enough to grow up and address the situation with the professor instead of a law suit. She will probably win because she is soooooo important. And I use to really like her and her skating. I might still like her skating, I just haven't seen it in awhile.

Vash01
06-08-2012, 11:58 PM
Someone with as much success as Yu-Na shouldn't care if a teacher, who she doesn't even take class from, says she's slagging off. Who gives a crap? I honestly can't even see a judge taking this lawsuit seriously if it actually went to court. It's like a 2nd grader suing their classmate b/c they called them a poo-poo head...and agreeing not to sue if they stand on the monkey bars at the playground and apologize.:rolleyes:



Exactly. However, if her staff is giving her the advice, she needs to use some intelligence and not just follow the advice. This libel suit sounds silly. A time in a court needs to be used for the society, and not to raise the ego of a celebrity.

martyross
06-09-2012, 12:01 AM
I feel so sad for her and her poor, pitiful life. She is old enough to grow up and address the situation with the professor instead of a law suit. She will probably win because she is soooooo important. And I use to really like her and her skating. I might still like her skating, I just haven't seen it in awhile.

spewing venom all over a screen won't make you become more successful and beloved than she is. ;)

agalisgv
06-09-2012, 03:29 AM
I don't think it's right for an educator to criticize someone he doesn't know personally You must not be in academia

FunnyBut
06-09-2012, 03:37 AM
I think she's really just seeking an apology and/or setting an example so others wont criticize her education so freely.

I doubt this will go very far.

ballettmaus
06-09-2012, 03:41 AM
Exactly. However, if her staff is giving her the advice, she needs to use some intelligence and not just follow the advice. This libel suit sounds silly. A time in a court needs to be used for the society, and not to raise the ego of a celebrity.

Who says it's her ego? And do we actually know if she (her lawyer/agency) contacted the professor and tried to get him to retract?
Either way, I think it's easy for us to judge because we're not in her position but a law suit might be her only way to fight back and be heard. Maybe it's a matter of principle. Celine Dion sued a French newspaper while she was pregnant pretty much for the same thing; I can't remember what it was exactly but something entirely false was reported. She sued for 100,000 dollar sum which surely was simply done because she wanted to make a statement. I even doubt she kept the money.
Yu-Na seems to enjoy quite a status in her home country and I would think there comes a point when enough is just enough and she or anyone else of her status needs to put a halt to things before they get too far and out of control. And just because she enjoys the status doesn't mean she needs to put up with everything thrown at her. I doubt if she wasn't who she was the professor should have mentioned her name - which is the advantage we "normal" people have and why we don't need to file that kind of law suits.

Vash01
06-09-2012, 04:44 AM
spewing venom all over a screen won't make you become more successful and beloved than she is. ;)

I didn't see 'venom' in the post you are referring to. All I saw was a different perspective.