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Vagabond
06-11-2012, 07:00 AM
You may want to hold off on all the bets a little longer. See once Igor gets settled who follows him. As some other people have said - hard to say you're sticking with Igor when he doesnt even have a rink.

I’d be preachin’ to the choirs,
Conferrin’ with the Moirs
Knowin’ what to think
And my team I’d be staffin’
And programs choreographin’
If I only had a rink

I’d unravel any puzzle
For any pair or cuzzle
In trouble or in pain

(Tanith)
Everyone would be droolin’
Comparing you to Zhulin
If you only had a rink

(Shpilband)
Oh, I would tell you why
Marina’s such a bore
I could coach some teams I never coached before
And then I’d skate and coach some more

I would not be just a nuffin’
Feelin’ like a week-old muffin
Not knowin’ what to think
I would dance and so would Meryl
Life would be a ding-a-derryl
If I only had a rink!

:fragile:

UMBS Go Blue
06-11-2012, 07:32 AM
You may want to hold off on all the bets a little longer. See once Igor gets settled who follows him. As some other people have said - hard to say you're sticking with Igor when he doesnt even have a rink.I was thinking that the current vBets would be for the immediate aftermath (i.e. first public announcements after the breakup)...

...while there would be new, juicier "high $takes" vBets later on that will be open for a longer period to track who moves to Igor by, say, the end of the calendar year or the end of the upcoming season. :bribe: ;)

skipaway
06-11-2012, 10:09 AM
Vagabond :respec:

kwanfan1818
06-11-2012, 10:21 AM
:lol: Vagabond!

Meredith
06-11-2012, 11:55 AM
:rofl: Vagabond!

cruisin
06-11-2012, 02:23 PM
With apologies to Verner, there may be less here than meets the eye, and the trigger was a good, old-fashioned argument between rink ownership and a coach. But Piseev planting a pawn is so much more colorful.

But, over what? What would make rink management throw out a coach who has brought so much success? Skaters have switched coaches everywhere. They have to face being on the ice with them. The coach that is left and the new coach have to deal with it. That is called being professional. If the skaters can't deal with Igor being there, then: 1. They are very immature and unprofessional (which I don't think is the case). 2. Something unpleasant happened, which we just don't know about. 3. Igor's decision (alleged) to have his own separate skaters could have been seen as a contractual breech with Marina (though, still that is a PSA issue, not rink management's). Or 4. Someone has it in for Igor and made something up.

But, as I said before, if something happened between Igor and Marina, they should have worked this out themselves. PSA states that, before you switch to a new coach the old coach must be notified - by the skater/s, before they go to the new coach. If the new coach doesn't make that happen, and teaches them before the "old" coach is notified, it is a breach of ethics. Yes, this is a bit different because Marina really is not a new coach. But, Igor should not have been notified by the rink management, nor should they have pushed him out - just because some skaters don't want him to coach them anymore. This is an issue for PSA, not the rink. If the skaters didn't want to take from him anymore - they should have told him themselves. The whole thing wreaks of unethical behavior, we just don't know on whose part.

BittyBug
06-11-2012, 02:52 PM
Vagabond! :rofl: and :respec:

semogal
06-11-2012, 07:10 PM
Oh Vagabond, I will forever see Igor as the Scarecrow after reading your post. Well done!!!!:rofl:

backspin
06-11-2012, 07:45 PM
Well, he's got ice somewhere. A team from my rink is going to be working with him in the next few weeks.

Katarzyna
06-11-2012, 08:39 PM
I just came back after two weeks of holiday without internet and this was the first thread I opened. I'm :eek: about the news and waiting for more details to come up. :watch:

No matter what conflict Shpilband and Zueva had, the way it ended looks like one or even two coaches did put personal ego ahead of their students, whose preparation will certainly suffer from splitting with such a big bang. :(

triplejjjfrank
06-11-2012, 08:43 PM
This is an issue for PSA, not the rink. If the skaters didn't want to take from him anymore - they should have told him themselves. The whole thing wreaks of unethical behavior, we just don't know on whose part.
why??
Igor contract IS with the rink not PSA

cruisin
06-11-2012, 08:57 PM
why??
Igor contract IS with the rink not PSA

That is not how it works. Igor and Marina are independent contractors. That is what their contract is. If he did not violate anything in that contract, there would be no reason to fire him. Now, his position as dance director is different, and they certainly could fire him from that position. But, to take away his privileges, was (in my opinion, based on what we have been told) unreasonable. The PSA exists for many reasons, one is to protect coaches from having other coaches solicit their students. It is a breech of ethics to take on a student without the student notifying the current coach, before you start teaching them. This situation sounds more like a problem between coaches and skaters, that is a PSA problem to resolve. The rink should not have gotten into it. The rink certainly should not have made the statements they did.

Frau Muller
06-11-2012, 09:08 PM
I don't know about y'all...but I cannot wait for Phil Hersh's expose on this saga. You know it's comin'!!! Until then, pass the poporn.

mollymgr
06-11-2012, 09:10 PM
That was amazing Vagabond :rofl:

Dragonlady
06-11-2012, 09:19 PM
This situation sounds more like a problem between coaches and skaters, that is a PSA problem to resolve. The rink should not have gotten into it. The rink certainly should not have made the statements they did.

I have difficulty believing any of the official statements issued. The story as presented doesn't hold water either from a business point of view or from a coaching standpoint.