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emilieh
06-04-2012, 06:02 PM
On top of that, icenetwork does make some really silly errors.

Like this one, in this article:


Together, they [Shpilband and Zoueva] moved from the Detroit SC to the Arctic Edge in 1996.

They didn't even team up until 2001, and I think it was 2003 or 2004 when they moved to Arctic Edge.

kwanfan1818
06-04-2012, 06:08 PM
Not a surprise. I doubt that he will go back there, since he defected initially, I assume for a reason. He is probably too used to the USA by now to go back, although others have done it. He may still prefer the freedom he has as a coach in the USA (unless this event has totally disillusioned him).
Many of the ballet dancers that defected from the Soviet Union returned to Russia to perform later in their careers. Russia today is not what he left.

John Kerr tweeted (https://twitter.com/Jkerrbear/status/209644621507215360):


I think the battle for the Olympic Ice dance title just got thrown wide open

bmcg
06-04-2012, 06:09 PM
If there were problems between Igor and Marina, the rink management should have acted as mediators instead of firing Igor (is that what Marina wanted?). It would have been better for the rink to have both of them, rather than just one.

Maybe they did and it failed. It says in the article this has been going on for a couple of months.

Vash01
06-04-2012, 06:12 PM
Maybe they did and it failed. It says in the article this has been going on for a couple of months.

From what Shpilband is saying, this caught him totally by surprise. So it is possible that there was hardly any communication to Shpilband.

Debbie S
06-04-2012, 06:14 PM
John Kerr tweeted:

I think the battle for the Olympic Ice dance title just got thrown wide openLet's not forget that D/W and V/M are the most talented teams out there - that's why they've been 1-2 at every major int'l where they both competed during the past 3 seasons. I assume what John is thinking is that no matter which coach(es) they go with, it won't be the same, and he's probably right, but for other teams to pass them, they'll have to do a lot of work. It could be he's thinking that politically, D/W and V/M could suffer b/c Igor was the one who did the behind-the-scenes work, and that could be true. We'll have to wait and see.

If Igor truly wants to set up his own program, he will need to bring in another coach who could fill Marina's role, and the same holds true for Marina.

Where I would start to worry is if Igor does in fact coach Russian teams, but it doesn't sound like he plans to do that.

flowerpower
06-04-2012, 06:15 PM
From what Shpilband is saying, this caught him totally by surprise. So it is possible that there was hardly any communication to Shpilband.

However...it's hard to imagine rink management not communicating with a coach of his stature prior to taking such an action.

bmcg
06-04-2012, 06:15 PM
From what Shpilband is saying, this caught him totally by surprise. So it is possible that there was hardly any communication to Shpilband.

He also says they have been having difficulties so while he may be shocked at the solution he knew about the problem.

eta...Wasn't Brian Orser also shocked and taken by surprise when YuNa left but it later came out that she hadn't been taking lessons from him for some time and that things at the rink were tense.

Debbie S
06-04-2012, 06:19 PM
However...it's hard to imagine rink management not communicating with a coach of his stature prior to taking such an action.Most rink managers and owners come from the hockey side of the sport and don't know a lot about figure skating, or the politics of it. But they are taking a risk if Igor does go and start his own program and it draws skaters away from Arctic Edge. That's what happened when Igor left DSC and it took quite a few years to bring in coaches who could build the program back up.

bmcg
06-04-2012, 06:19 PM
Many of the ballet dancers that defected from the Soviet Union returned to Russia to perform later in their careers. Russia today is not what he left.

John Kerr tweeted (https://twitter.com/Jkerrbear/status/209644621507215360):


I think the battle for the Olympic Ice dance title just got thrown wide open

I think Kerr's comment is a bit silly. The coaching team was definitely a strong factor BUT the skaters themselves are incredibly talented, dedicated and hardworking. They aren't going to lose that overnight.

jenji124
06-04-2012, 06:21 PM
wow really surprising :eek: can't wait to see how this all unfolds.

Zemgirl
06-04-2012, 06:23 PM
Looking at D/W's WTT performances - Zoueva was there, Shpilband was not (I think in 2009 it was the other way around), and with the exception of the obligatory post-FD photo, they pretty much ignored Marina entirely in the K&C (http://youtu.be/vZYPidagIVE?t=6m37s). I don't know if we should read any deep meaning into that, but it looked weird. There was a lot more interaction between her and V/M.

Debbie S
06-04-2012, 06:23 PM
I find it interesting that USFSA has not posted any article about this, and they usually post about moves of top coaches and skaters. They just posted an announcement about renewing their partnership with Prudential, but nothing about Canton. Looks like they are going to do their best to stay out of it.

just wondering
06-04-2012, 06:26 PM
There are two articles on Icenetwork.
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120603&content_id=32735008&vkey=ice_news
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120604&content_id=32741600&vkey=ice_news

Visaliakid
06-04-2012, 06:27 PM
According to icenetwork Shpilband will not be coaching D/W.

Read the article several times now and there is no such proclamation of the sort. NOTHING is said about who D/W, V/M or Shib Sibs will wind up training with/for.

:rolleyes:

zotza
06-04-2012, 06:27 PM
There is always trouble in paradise.
I can certainly understand what John Kerr is saying.When changes that big happen,nobody knows how things are going to unfold.
Politicking can be as important as the dancers' talent and choreography.Of course you can't bring an untalented couple to the top but you can certainly bring a talented one.
I want to see who goes with him and who stays.