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Nan
06-21-2012, 03:29 PM
I hope you feel better soon so you can enjoy your vacation. :)

skatesindreams
06-21-2012, 04:01 PM
I hope you feel better soon so you can enjoy your vacation. :)

Echoing this!

Angelskates
06-21-2012, 05:34 PM
In Italy, you have to ask for a stamp. :lol:

I guess since Europe has no money, this is saving ink. Who am I to argue?


I hope you feel better. Did you bring antibiotics, just in case? I went to Paris a few years ago, shortly after having oral surgery. My doctor insisted that I take antibiotics, in case I got an infection. Well, my teeth were fine, but I wound up with a fever, swollen glands and a sore throat, the first day. It was fortuitous that I had the meds, and Advil, felt better in a day or so. Now, I bring them with me if I leave the country.

Thanks, I am feeling better. REALLY tired, but better. I did not bring antibiotics, I am not allowed to take medications without a doctor's actual supervision since I am already on medications and have several health issues and no health insurance. I would never take antibiotics without an appointment to see a doctor.

Today I had a lot of fun getting lost. I found a lot of cool stuff, some really famous (the Spanish Steps, St. Peter's Basilica etc.) and some not (all the food I ate, some cool doors and windows) and the Google Maps helped me find my way back to the hotel.

I want to photograph EVERYTHING - I've taken 324 photos already! I can't imagine not having digital :lol: I am very glad I brought the extra zoom. :)

Tomorrow I am going to the Vatican, Sistine Chapel and St. Peter's Basilica on a morning tour. I'm going to Travestere for dinner with my friend and some of her friends.

The hardest thing so far: remembering they don't speak Chinese and remembering to flush toilet paper. It's also weird to have cars stop to let pedestrians cross at the zebra crossings! In China, they're just road decorations :lol: A lot of things remind me a of Beijing, or not so much remind me, but I have noticed similarities - the importance of elaborate doors, attention to details (especially in roofs), the magazine stands...

pingu
06-21-2012, 06:15 PM
Welcome to Italy :)

Angelskates
06-21-2012, 06:22 PM
Thanks ping, where in Italy are you? (Sorry if I've already asked). It was funny when I arrived in Rome - the first sign I was was "Welcome to Rome" written in Chinese with a big picture of the Colosseum!

cruisin
06-21-2012, 07:03 PM
Angelskates, so you know, you can take photos in the Vatican.

Angelskates
06-21-2012, 07:12 PM
Angelskates, so you know, you can take photos in the Vatican.

I know ;) Thanks.

pingu
06-21-2012, 08:41 PM
Thanks ping, where in Italy are you? (Sorry if I've already asked). It was funny when I arrived in Rome - the first sign I was was "Welcome to Rome" written in Chinese with a big picture of the Colosseum!

I live in Milan :) I'm not surprised that you saw that sign, there have been a lot of chinese tourists here (well, at least where I live) in the recent years.

allezfred
06-21-2012, 09:39 PM
Most disappointing thing (aside from being sick!) was that I didn't get an Italia stamp in my passport!!

Probably because you entered the Schengen Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area) when you arrived in Germany.

vesperholly
06-21-2012, 10:09 PM
It's also weird to have cars stop to let pedestrians cross at the zebra crossings! In China, they're just road decorations :lol:

If you're good at dodging traffic, you'll be right at home in Rome. My poor friend was not so bold and almost got run over a few times. :yikes:


Probably because you entered the Schengen Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area) when you arrived in Germany.

Yes, that's what happened to us. Furthermore, we didn't even get a stamp coming into the EU because we went through an expedited customs line since our layover at Schipol was less than an hour. I was quite sad. :lol: The only stamp I have is for leaving Amsterdam!

Tinami Amori
06-22-2012, 12:23 AM
I guess since Europe has no money, this is saving ink. Who am I to argue?...

No it is not that..:D You've entered EU/schengen section through Germany because your first point of entry into EU was Munchen. So you got a German stamp. The Munchen-Roma flight was technically "domestic" and you did not go through customs and passport control, so no need to stamp your passport.

You'll get one out of Milan when leaving....:rollin:

cruisin
06-22-2012, 01:40 AM
Probably because you entered the Schengen Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area) when you arrived in Germany.

Not necessarily, I drove from Slovenia to Venice, in 2003. Before Slovenia was part of the area. When I crossed into Italy, they took our passports and did not stamp them. We asked for stamps, they looked incredibly annoyed, made us pull over and wait for 20 minutes :lol:. But, we got our stamps.


No it is not that..:D You've entered EU/schengen section through Germany because your first point of entry into EU was Munchen. So you got a German stamp. The Munchen-Roma flight was technically "domestic" and you did not go through customs and passport control, so no need to stamp your passport.

You'll get one out of Milan when leaving....:rollin:

Maybe, I've flown out of Firenze and Rome, never got a stamp. and the Rome flight was Rome to Newark, non-stop.

Angelskates
06-22-2012, 03:50 AM
Meh, if the stamp (or lack of) is the most disappointing thing about the trip, I'll be delighted! :)

Tinami Amori
06-22-2012, 09:03 AM
Not necessarily, I drove from Slovenia to Venice, in 2003. Before Slovenia was part of the area. When I crossed into Italy, they took our passports and did not stamp them. We asked for stamps, they looked incredibly annoyed, made us pull over and wait for 20 minutes :lol:. But, we got our stamps.


Maybe. I've flown out of Firenze and Rome, never got a stamp. and the Rome flight was Rome to Newark, non-stop.

Ok.....:)

When you flown ex Rome or Firenze directly to USA, yes you were on an international flight, and yes you had to go through passport control, but it was bound for the USA.

US Citizens do NOT require to have Schengen Visas to Europe, so the passport control procedures differ from flights which service origins/destination of countries from which citizens do require a Schengen Visa.

One of the conditions of Schengen visa for visa holders, if they do not want to be black-listed for next time, is to LEAVE BEFORE YOUR SCHENGEN VISA EXPIRES.

In order to register "exit" for Schengen Visa holders, the customs at the last port of exist from the EU/schengen zone do two things:
a) Scan the Passport into the "departure database" for their own records.

b) Put a stamp into the departing schengen-holder's passport to give him/her a PROOF OF TIMELY EXIST according to Visa Rules.

Most passengers on the flight ex EU/Schengen zone to USA/Canada/etc, are NOT Schengen visa holders and their passports do not get stamped automatically. If one needs a stamp - ONE MUST ASK FOR IT.

However... In case of Angelskates, she is comming from and going back to China. Chinese citizens do need Schengen Visa. Angelskate is an Auzzie, but she is on a flight from/to a zone (China) which requires Schengen Visa for most passengers.

So the customs/passport control will process to/from China flights with all the Schengen requirements in mind.

If Angelskates flight ex MXP/Milan is direct to PEK/Pekin - she'll get exist stamp automatically.

If her flight ex MXP back to Munchen or Frankfurt and then on to PEK - she'll get her stamp ex German airport.

Tinami Amori
06-22-2012, 09:35 AM
Angelskates, when you get to Tivoli, Villa D’Este tomorrow, if you get a chance can you please bring a snack for feral cats who live there?

You will see them when you get to the main fountain (see the right lower corner of this foto), there is a feral cats colony, cats who live there in the bushes, and people bring cat snack to feed them. Or some buy “something cheesy” or “milky” at the snack stand right there. Or one can buy and bring a cat food from a store in Rome, or cottage cheese jar, or something…. These cats depend on people feeding them.

This is were you can find most of the cats (lower right corner).
http://bagnidilucca.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/img_0422.jpg

These are the cats, well few of them.
http://daypic.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1411.jpg

http://honeybadgerhall.blogspot.com/2009/06/cats-of-italy.html

http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/4501825

(this is not me, just a foto)
http://justmarriedblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/dsc_0479web.jpg?w=398&h=600

(only if you have a chance, and if you will, then THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!...:cat:)