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japanice
05-30-2012, 02:26 AM
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/sp20120530it.html

DaiKozOda
05-30-2012, 03:06 PM
The japanese fans must be proud of having so many great skaters at the moment!

robinhood
05-30-2012, 03:18 PM
the return of Miki means more pressure for Mao to make the world team. I'm not sure she should be favored by the Japanese Federation and akiko and Kanako have much more momentum going into next season

Who do u think will make the world team next season?

Amy03
05-30-2012, 03:26 PM
why the hell would akiko and kanako have more momentum then Mao? what have they accomplished that Mao hasn't? what have they won that Mao hasn't?

a Mao that isn't in best condition can still score more then akiko and kanako at there best, and when Mao is at her best the others would be no where near her ability! you are talking about a two time world champion and an olympic medalist who was dominating the sport just a few years ago lol

aidan
05-30-2012, 03:48 PM
a Mao that isn't in best condition can still score more then akiko and kanako at there best, and when Mao is at her best the others would be no where near her ability! you are talking about a two time world champion and an olympic medalist who was dominating the sport just a few years ago lol

Actually, since Akiko and Kanako both placed ahead of Mao at the 2012 Worlds, both with flawed performances, you're statement is incorrect. In fact Akiko beat Mao a couple of times last season.

Having momentum vs accomplishments vs natural ability are all totally different things. Even if you're the most naturally talented (which most would agree that Mao is), it's not going to help her if she can't bring it to the ice when it counts.

Having said that, Ando, Akiko, and Kanako would all have to be having very strong showings for Mao to be left off the World Team, but it could happen. Remember, Irina Slutskaya was left off the Russian team in 1999 after medaling at 1998 Worlds because she just couldn't put it together that year, so it's not unheard of.

mikeko
05-30-2012, 03:49 PM
why the hell would akiko and kanako have more momentum then Mao? what have they accomplished that Mao hasn't? what have they won that Mao hasn't?

a Mao that isn't in best condition can still score more then akiko and kanako at there best, and when Mao is at her best the others would be no where near her ability! you are talking about a two time world champion and an olympic medalist who was dominating the sport just a few years ago lol

Asada's PCS was always higher than Suzuki or Murakami even when she had only one clean triple, but she often lost TES to them last season.

That someone has accomplished something doesn't necessarily mean that he/she will do it again. Every athlete passes his/her prime sooner or later. We are talking about the present and future but not the past. Asada was once a supreme jumper when she had a child's body, small and light. Asada now only has decent 3F and 3Lo, is not even consistent with 3T, and can not land clean 3Lz or 3S because she didn't learn the right basics while she still had the child's body.

aidan
05-30-2012, 03:56 PM
How came Takahashi and Hanyu are both competing at NHK? I thought that two World medalists couldn't compete in the same Grand Prix event. Have the rules changed?

Sylvia
05-30-2012, 04:04 PM
How came Takahashi and Hanyu are both competing at NHK? I thought that two World medalists couldn't compete in the same Grand Prix event. Have the rules changed?
A possible reason: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3574181&postcount=15

robinhood
05-30-2012, 04:08 PM
Mao is my favorite of the ladies, but one can't ignore the facts that Mao's results and skating have been going down for 2 season right now
next season Asada has a lot to prove. Akiko is regarded as Japan's #1 right now and Miki is their most recent champion. The way I see it right now, Mao will be fighting with Kanako for the last spot in the team.
Asada needs a more suitable jump layout atm, and much more realistic in her abilities. She can't do the 3 axel anymore and the rest of her jumps seem iffy. Of course, Mao at her best is a different game but the direction of her skating this past season don't suggest she's there.

Sparks
05-30-2012, 04:10 PM
Who will coach Ando????

mikeko
05-30-2012, 04:19 PM
It's hard to tell how well Ando will do this season. She still looks out of shape, and her skating looks rather labored. She doesn't seem to have her motivation much either.

aidan
05-30-2012, 04:21 PM
Who will coach Ando????

Maybe she should move to Brian Orser with Hanyu. But I'm sure her sporting agency will determine if that is acceptable. :P :D Sorry, after briefly reading the thread about Hanyu switching coaches to Brian, I couldn't resist bringing it up.


She still looks out of shape, and her skating looks rather labored.

Well, her skating has looked laboured for years, and the judges don't seem to mark her down for it. I'm not putting her down, since she has great jumping talent and I do respect here abilities, but I don't know that we'll ever see the light/effortless style of Kostner or Asada coming from her.

NMURA
05-30-2012, 04:34 PM
why the hell would akiko and kanako have more momentum then Mao? what have they accomplished that Mao hasn't? what have they won that Mao hasn't? l

Asada has the highest SB among Japanese ladies. Suzuki was held up at NHK and WTT out of proportion, yet lower than Asada at 4CC (somewhat disadvantaged by the "away" judging). Murakami has lost all of her confidences by 30+ TES at WTT, a complete disgrace. Thay have no chance to medal at Sochi or fake-London. I think the JSF would give Asada the benefit of doubt and ready to promote her in the coming season. They know Asada's only proplem is the persistence on the Axel.

Ando -- is still not sure to show up at competitions.

FunnyBut
05-30-2012, 04:36 PM
I think it will be interesting to see Kostner vs. Ando head-to-head twice in the GP. They are such different skaters, both now World champions, if they both skate well, how will the judges place them?

mikeko
05-30-2012, 04:38 PM
Well, her skating has looked laboured for years, and the judges don't seem to mark her down for it. I'm not putting her down, since she has great jumping talent and I do respect here abilities, but I don't know that we'll ever see the light/effortless style of Kostner or Asada coming from her.

Ando's skating looks even worse with the ugly posture these days, and I'm not sure about her jumping ability now because of her current shape.

Asada's skating may look light but is quite slow actually.