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icellist
06-01-2012, 06:49 AM
Miu Sato also has huge jumps and great technique and seems to be past her growthspurt. Needs a lot of polishing artistically, but could go further than someone like Miyahara who has itty-bitty jumps and is still super tiny so may struggle when she hits puberty. Also, Haruka Imai may stick around, she's inconsistent, but capable of 3-3s when on firm. If Risa Shoji can recover from her injury and work out her UR issues, she could also be a factor, very strong artistic skater with strong basics who has done well on the JGP the past 2 seasons.

ITA, Miu Sato, Risa Shoji, and Haruka Imai are safer bets for the future than Miyahara. Both Miyahara and Murakami have so many technique issues to fix.

Jeschke
06-01-2012, 06:55 AM
ITA, Miu Sato, Risa Shoji, and Haruka Imai are safer bets for the future than Miyahara. Both Miyahara and Murakami have so many technique issues to fix.

miu sato always reminds me of young miki ando back in 2002, 2003. letīs hope she has a broight future ahead of her

ainouta
06-01-2012, 06:56 AM
I really like Haruna Suzuki. She just got the lutz and flip this year but her basics and technique seem quite solid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R92pfvvC2j0

Triple Butz
06-01-2012, 06:00 PM
I really like Haruna Suzuki. She just got the lutz and flip this year but her basics and technique seem quite solid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R92pfvvC2j0

Hadn't heard of her, thanks for posting. Looks promising!

Iceman
06-01-2012, 08:19 PM
I fear Mao's golden moment has passed her by. Too bad she wasn't age eligible at the time imo her golden moment occurred.

Iceman
06-01-2012, 08:21 PM
I really like Haruna Suzuki. She just got the lutz and flip this year but her basics and technique seem quite solid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R92pfvvC2j0



Is she kin to Akiko?

ainouta
06-01-2012, 08:26 PM
Is she kin to Akiko?

Don't believe so. Suzuki is a very common surname in Japan.

pinky166
06-01-2012, 11:07 PM
miu sato always reminds me of young miki ando back in 2002, 2003. letīs hope she has a broight future ahead of her

I agree with this. The strength and size of her jumps and the solid technique are what is most assuring, plus she already has a woman's body unlike Miyahara who is built like an 8 year old. Sato also has some great spins, for example her flying sit spin is terrific. Miyahara is like Kanako but at least Kanako has big jumps, and even at Miyahara's age wasn't quite so tiny, so realistically Miyahara may never get as far as Kanako has managed to. I really like Shoji and it was sad to see her struggle this season but it seems like that was mostly due to her injury, her URs are a big issue and she has weird flip/lutz technique, but she is usually consistent and she didn't appear to put on a lot of weight or anything with puberty so once the injury is healed she will hopefully go back to doing well. Her scores from the junior competitions the past couple seasons were regularly higher than Imai's from senior competitions, so when she moves up it's possible she will get to compete at GPs and 4CC like Haruka has regularly been able to do.

galaxy
06-02-2012, 02:31 AM
JSF is willing to do anything to send their favorites (with big corporate sponsors) to Olympics anyway. It's the same organization that sent Ando instead of Nakano to Turin in 2006 even though Ando terribly underperformed that season, and even had a fracture in her foot. Nagakubo, Suzuki's coach thought she would not make it to the Olympic team when he saw the judge panel at 2009 Nationals. (She did by 0.17 though JSF tried really hard to give the third spot to Nakano this time probably out of guilt.) The question may not be who to send but how to manipulate the selection process, especially when their favorites are not performing well.



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I agree about the 2005 Nationals before Turin, but they received huge criticizm for sending Ando to the Olys instead of Nakano or Onda, so I don't think they are still manipulationg the selection process any more. Actually, Suzuki was sent to Vancouber instead of Nakano. She may not be Japanese media's and TV stations' darling, but I feel she is really loved by Japanese fs fans and I heard she got more cheering from the crowd than Kanako at WTT in Tokyo. And I don't think she is held down at competions in Japan either.



Nagakubo, Suzuki's coach thought she would not make it to the Olympic team when he saw the judge panel at 2009 Nationals.

:confused:
Did he really say that?

mikeko
06-02-2012, 03:09 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
I agree about the 2005 Nationals before Turin, but they received huge criticizm for sending Ando to the Olys instead of Nakano or Onda, so I don't think they are still manipulationg the selection process any more. Actually, Suzuki was sent to Vancouber instead of Nakano. She may not be Japanese media's and TV stations' darling, but I feel she is really loved by Japanese fs fans and I heard she got more cheering from the crowd than Kanako at WTT in Tokyo. And I don't think she is held down at competions in Japan either.




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Did he really say that?

Yes, he did.
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/column/shirota/news/20110817-OHT1T00171.htm
長久保「でも、全日本は苦しかった。ジャッジ席のメンバーを見た時点で、『あ、これは明子が負けるわ』と思 ったからね」

Watch and compare Nakano's and Suzuki's performances to see if the 0.17 difference was reasonable. Many thought Suzuki was undermarked while the tech panel ignored Nakano's URs, and their total difference could have been up to 10 points if scored by ISU judges.

This series of interviews was done with Noriko Shirota, one of the JSF officials that were in the center of the 2006 fraudulent accounting scandal. She resigned after the scandal was uncovered, but is back with the Federation.

http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/column/shirota/news/20110802-OHT1T00162.htm
According to this article, JSF didn't consult Nagakubo at all when they decided to send Takeshi Honda overseas to train with foreign coaches. It makes me wonder if Hanyu's case was like Honda's.

Yes, Suzuki has many fans in Japan, but it doesn't mean that JSF likes or recognizes her. They love skaters who can bring them money.

kwanfan1818
06-02-2012, 07:19 AM
Not even a fax?

love_skate2011
06-02-2012, 07:57 AM
I don't think Ando will be instant star again
she has to challenge Akiko who is clearly the most dominant Japanese
lady at the moment.

Lis
06-02-2012, 08:35 AM
another interview here :

http://www.absoluteskating.com/index.php?cat=interviews&id=2012mikiando