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haribobo
05-27-2012, 05:42 PM
Now that Classics is over, who do you predict for the Olympic team? I'll do another poll after Nationals.

Loves_Shizuka
05-27-2012, 05:52 PM
Wieber, Ross, Douglas, Maroney and Raisman. Alt: Finnegan

:)

BigB08822
05-27-2012, 05:54 PM
Wieber, Liukin, Raisman, Douglas and Maroney for now.

I feel like it is still so up in the air but it I am torn between Liukin and Ross. It will obviously come down to how Liukin looks at Nats. Ross seemed like such a lock a few days ago but she was shaky and she has yet to actually hit that Amanar. I feel confident between Raisman and Douglas that one of them will be looking good on vault in London.

Douglas seems more than capable of a nice score on FX so I don't feel there is all this pressure on Maroney to prove she is going to be a big scorer there. She just needs to show she is ready to step in if needed. This allows us 2 really solid beam workers in Raisman and Wieber and while we have yet to see if Liukin is consistent on beam, she has history on her side. I hate putting Wieber on bars but I have a feeling she will look a lot better by London and if she can just muscle through it will be an acceptable score for the US to take.

floskate
05-27-2012, 05:57 PM
Wieber, Liukin, Raisman, Douglas and Maroney for now.



Ditto but a lot can change over the next few weeks.

ilovesalchows
05-27-2012, 06:22 PM
If I were to pick it right now, after this comp, I would choose Ross over Liukin because I know Kyla can swing a full bar set at this moment. But I chose Liukin because I think she will be able to put something together with at least a 6.2-6.5 D score in the next two weeks. But either one is capable of very clean sets on both bars and beam. Nastia just dazzles though.

I think this is the first time the US could have all its members as event finalists.

FiveRinger
05-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Wieber, Raisman, Maroney, Douglas and Liukin. I say that Ross should be the alternate because we know that she can fill in on any of the other apparatus if someone gets injured or there is some unforseen issue. None of the others can be substituted for each other. Everyone else pretty much has a specialty and this group just seems to work. What else can you do when you have a team full of specialists? Only one of them is a true AA'er, and her bars are questionable.

BigB08822
05-28-2012, 12:30 AM
Ross really is a great alternate because she could step in on any event. Floor would be the last one but I think that would also be the event she was needed on the least since everyone but Liukin has a decent enough floor routine. I just think that if she starts nailing 15.5 beam sets, which she is capable of, then it comes down to a score battle with Nastia. Nastia needs to go big on bars if Ross starts nailing beam (and assuming she still does well on the other events).

pollyanna
05-28-2012, 03:11 AM
Ross really is a great alternate because she could step in on any event.
^^This.

It killed me to click Raisman's name instead of Ross, but dayum that girl just does not miss. But as has been said, it's early yet, we haven't seen everyone, and you never know when injury will take a supposed lock out of contention (God forbid).

{{{{{Chellsie}}}}}

Choupette
05-28-2012, 04:01 AM
I'm very perplex about putting Liukin on the team. Yes, she was great under pressure, but that was four years ago. I've always thought that any athlete, even the best in their sport, needs to have competed regularly in a recent past and in big competitions to be able to perform at their best under pressure. Sure, perhaps she could do well anyway, but no matter what she does in the next 60 days or so, I feel her mental preparation will be less than optimal.

Also, it's great that she's moving well on the uneven bars, but has anyone seen a full bar set from her in training? It's one thing to perform part of a routine, but it's another to put the full routine together. IIRC, four years ago, she was able to perform her dismount very well by itself but had a difficult time being consistent with it when she did it at the end of her routine in competition. Her beam isn't that convincing as it is right now.

If it were me, I wouldn't take her, unless other athletes are injured. I don't dislike her: I certainly would love to see her do well in London if she makes the team.

judgejudy27
05-28-2012, 05:13 AM
I think Wieber, Douglas, and Raisman are locks at this point. I do not think Maroney is a lock like this forum seems to think, but I hope she makes it so I will pick her. I will pick Ross for the other spot. I still dont believe her stock has dropped so far to miss it. I dont see how Liukin is more valuable to the team than Ross at this point, unless her still be revealed bars set is Douglas level or higher by Trials. Finnegan is too similar to Raisman to be of any use. Bross is practically out of it completely it seems. Johnson and Sacramaone are not even noteworthy at this point. Maybe if Sloan shows up with a killer bar set and an excellent floor routine she might have a shot.

BigB08822
05-28-2012, 05:30 AM
Also, it's great that she's moving well on the uneven bars, but has anyone seen a full bar set from her in training? It's one thing to perform part of a routine, but it's another to put the full routine together. IIRC, four years ago, she was able to perform her dismount very well by itself but had a difficult time being consistent with it when she did it at the end of her routine in competition. Her beam isn't that convincing as it is right now.

I don't think she has shown any full routines. I have always hated her dismount because she nearly lands on her nose every time and the form is awful but I have seen her do it in training by itself and it is big and with a kick out and the form isn't as bad. Endurance clearly makes that dismount much more difficult.

judgejudy27
05-28-2012, 05:38 AM
Liukin with more votes than Ross even though all she has shown thus far is a beam routine that tied for 3rd at the Classics. Interesting to say the least.

rudi
05-28-2012, 04:58 PM
Okay, I'll go against the grain here and say Wieber, Douglas, Maroney, Ross, and Liukin.

I see it as Wieber, Douglas, and Ross as the three AA'ers that Marta wants, with Maroney for Vault and Luikin for UB (could be substituted for Bross...if Bross outscores Nastia on UB at Nationals and Trials)

We still have Nationals and Trials so I think it is still too early to call, though.

Raisman certainly made a case for herself at Classics, and if she performs the same way at Nationals and Trials, she will leave Marta no choice but to take her.

I really wish it were a 7 person team or even 6. :(

Hopefully everyone will stay healthy, and the best team will be picked.

BigB08822
05-28-2012, 08:45 PM
The funny thing to me is that the argument against putting Maroney on the team and taking someone else off (Raisman or even Ross) is that Liukin hasn't shown a single bar routine and therefore that is just stupid. That logic is just silly though because to take Maroney off the team then you have to also assume Liukin is in. I am sorry but Bross is out. Her bar routine was outscored by Ross and Douglas and is only a few tenths higher than what a hit set from Wieber can bring in. Plus, don't let one hit routine make you forget how many missed routines she had on UB before this weekend.

Either way you look at it, Liukin is on the team unless you include Raisman and Maroney. The only slim possibility is replacing Ross with Liukin which is something I keep going back and forth with but I fully expect Ross to start hitting high scoring beam routines, which we can use. Anyway, my point is that it all comes down to Liukin and her bar set. If she isn't doing what she needs to do then I can't see any scenario (other than injury) where Raisman AND Maroney don't make the team.

Cloudy_Gumdrops
05-28-2012, 09:06 PM
At this point, I'm going with Wieber, Maroney, Douglas, Raisman, and Ross. I ain't putting Liukin on any teams till we actually see her get through a bar routine. She's always had problems with her dismounts, so forgive me for being so leery about her. And I'm not so sure about her beam routine either. International judges might not be so generous about those connections (that goes for Wieber too).

Bars: Wieber, Ross, Douglas
Beam: Raisman, Ross, Wieber
Floor: Douglas/Maroney, Wieber, Raisman
Vault: Raisman, Wieber, Maroney