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Libertango
10-15-2012, 05:05 PM
Mirai's problem is that she is a former TEB medallist.
The french fed doesn't want their ladies to finish last : both Silete and Meite beat McCorkell at Europeans last year, Silete beat Geblova and J.Helgesson. At worlds she beat Glebova and McCorkell again and Korobeynikova who had an bad event (but now of course Yretha is out because of injury).

Kostner and Ando were big question marks during the off-season and I think the french fed played on it.

morqet
10-15-2012, 05:14 PM
I really don't think it's about not wanting the French ladies to finish last - at this late stage I would imagine that arranging transport and the associated costs is going to be a much more important priority. To be honest I can't blame the French Fed for that; unless there is a superstar like Yuna or Mao, TEB is never the best attended event & over the last couple of seasons they have been hit with a disproportionate number of withdrawals & last minute replacements - I remember being really excited by the men's line up when assignments were released last season, but the skaters I got to see when the event actually happened were very different... Belgium to Paris is always going to be easier & cheaper to arrange than California to Paris. It does suck for Mirai, but we're now in an age where skating doesn't generate that much revenue and cost is going to be an important consideration for any federation hosting an event.

wonderlen
10-15-2012, 05:58 PM
How did Takahashi and Hanyu end up in NHK together???? Aren't all world medalist not supposed to meet until GP final??

kwanfan1818
10-15-2012, 05:59 PM
Apparently, host picks trump all other considerations, and if Japan had swept the podium, NHK could have all three.

It's not necessarily the best strategy for getting each into the GPF, but it is meaningful to the Federation and their event.

mgobluegirl
10-15-2012, 06:11 PM
Clearly ISU needs to revise their alternate selection rules. If they want to do it in groups of 5 from the season's best list, that's fine, considering that costs do play a rule. But ALL the skaters from one group of 5 should have to be selected before any from the next group can be (barring maxing out on the number of entries allowed from a single country).

Lara
10-15-2012, 06:44 PM
Just wow. :( I agree there's still a reasonable chance for Mirai with NHK, but it shouldn't come down to that. It's not right.

RD
10-15-2012, 06:46 PM
Clearly ISU needs to revise their alternate selection rules. If they want to do it in groups of 5 from the season's best list, that's fine, considering that costs do play a rule. But ALL the skaters from one group of 5 should have to be selected before any from the next group can be (barring maxing out on the number of entries allowed from a single country).

yes, the only way to bring about change in the rules is to have the current ones exploited & something crazy happen.

I wasn't convinced before, but now I have to say something is up...Nagasu not being able to get a 2nd event even after all these WDs is a bit perplexing indeed. I say her biggest hope at this point is that Czisny won't be ready for NHK and pulls out with enough time to name an alternate.

I mean, Gao of all people got a 2nd event...it's probably not far-fetched if Flatt gets a 2nd one, too if there was yet another WD

Frau Muller
10-15-2012, 06:51 PM
Mirai's world standing is higher than both Wagner's and Caroline Zhang's, yet they both got two assignments. .....

It doesn't matter. Mirai dropped like a rock after her glory days. Hopefully she'll be able to rebuild and return to high standings (like Caroline did after her 4Cs bronze medal win a few months ago). Ashley's and Caroline's ISU championship medals came just in the last season. I believe that accomplishments in the most recent season are of utmost importance in these determinations. We all know that Mirai is lovely and capable of more than what she achieved last season but it was still a terrible season for her (mostly).

victoriaheidi
10-15-2012, 07:03 PM
I am of the legitimate believe that this is a kick in the pants for Mirai (another try...obviously, leaving her home from Worlds--twice--didn't work) and the hope is that she will do super-well at CoC and then continue that streak throughout the season.

That or USFS is moving on from her. :(

It would be really nice if Mirai could get back to her peak and overcome her nerves. It just depends. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for her.

pinky166
10-15-2012, 07:07 PM
I'd be more concerned for Mirai if she kept getting passed up for more events than just TEB. But so far, all the withdrawals have been for TEB or CoC, where she is already competing, so clearly it just means the French Fed either doesn't want a 3rd American lady at that event or doesn't want to invite Mirai because she's medaled at that event before and is likely to place ahead of their own skaters. It's not like a bunch of spots have opened up at other GPs and Mirai's been getting passed over, it's just TEB. So while that sucks for Mirai, I don't think the ISU or USFS is really trying to punish her as some seem to think. I feel like if another spot opens up at another GP that doesn't already have 3 US ladies competing at it or is CoC or TEB, Mirai will be given the spot. Of course, that really only leaves SC, NHK, and COR because SA is this week, but there is still a chance Mirai could get a 2nd event, and if she doesn't, maybe it will work out for the best. So far she seems to be getting back on track with her skating and as per her Twitter, she does not appear to be depressed or upset and rather seems to be enjoying college and getting to live a more "normal 19-year-old" life now that she's training closer to home and not spending all that time in the car.

Mirai is still a lovely skater, but she didn't deliver last season so it's not shocking to see her only get 1 GP. It seems like she's trying to make her life more balanced between college/normal things and skating, and if that's the case, having 1 GP and no shot to make the final works better for that. If she decides she really wants to make a run at the 2014 Olympic team, then there's still time for her to reshape her priorities, buckle down on training, and show up at Nationals in great form so that she can hopefully compete at 4CC and/or Worlds afterwards and prove she's still in the mix. But if not, she seems to be pretty content with where her life is at right now, and honestly, if she continues to underperform/choke/appear unfocused at big competitions, having other things going on in her life will likely make it easier to deal with and less upsetting for both herself and her fans. I know Mirai is not at Stanford or Harvard like Rachael and Christina, but it's still hard balancing being a student anywhere while being an elite athlete, and clearly, she has interests outside of skating, so as much as some of us really want her to finally reach her potential, at some point I think we maybe have to accept that it might not happen and skating might not be her dominant priority in life anymore. Certainly, she still takes it seriously, but maybe she realizes that even if she focus entirely on skating and push really hard, she still might not achieve what people want or believe she can achieve, and that's the reality. So in light of that, maybe she deems its not worth it to follow such a regimented sleep, training, eating, stretching, etc cycle and to just do the best she can with skating while continuing to go to college and enjoy other things in life.

SamuraiK
10-15-2012, 07:32 PM
There is a degree of bad luck in that one of the fields currently experiencing such attrition is one she's already participating in.

THIS, its been really unfortunate half the spots withdrawn have com from COC where Mirai is already assigned. and for all those who claim dumping its not ISU or USFS fault if the french simply don't want Mirai at TEB either.

That the subtitute rules should be fixed so this doesn0t happen again. That I agree with.

floskate
10-15-2012, 07:42 PM
Thread closed as it is over 1000 posts. Feel free to start another if there's need.