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kwanfan1818
10-15-2012, 08:43 AM
Dornbush wasn't assigned to Skate America, though: he was chosen by the RUS and JPN Federations in the initial selections. Did USFS stop any other country from choosing Nagasu?

Zawadzki was #25 on last year's Season's Best list, and it was very likely that, under most circumstances, she would have had a great shot for a second off the alternates list. However, it seemed like a guaranteed second spot for Nagasu by the following wording in 7.6 Replacements section of the GP announcement, which seemed surer than Zawadzi having placed just outside the Top 24:

The second bullet point after split couples on the alternates list is:

"*Skaters in proper order of top 24 Season's Best would be next"

and "The alternate list needs to be worked through in ranking order for the top 24 ranked skaters/couples according to their Season's Best."

chika3
10-15-2012, 09:38 AM
Cup of China: Ying ZHANG(CHN) IN
Trophée Bompard: Jenna MCCORKELL(GBR) IN

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-136494-137802-nav-list,00.html

rosewood
10-15-2012, 09:56 AM
:wall::slinkaway Mirai...

shah
10-15-2012, 11:14 AM
the board is going to explode...

I feel extremely sorry for Mirai, but it's nice to see a veteran Jenna on the roster!

l'etoile
10-15-2012, 11:44 AM
WTH... ((Mirai))

Zemgirl
10-15-2012, 11:56 AM
Cup of China: Ying ZHANG(CHN) IN
Trophée Bompard: Jenna MCCORKELL(GBR) IN

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-136494-137802-nav-list,00.html
You just had to figure that McCorkell would eventually get a GP. Good for her :)

Re Mirai Nagasu: yes, it's pretty strange that someone so high on the SB list can't get a second assignment. But obviously the only way to guarantee yourself two spots is to do well at Worlds, which is really difficult if you skate the way she did at Nationals. And Nagasu was in a better position than skaters from smaller countries, who don't have a chance at a host pick. As others have noted, the USFSA must have figured that someone else would give her one - but Mirai is too big a threat to be attractive to organizers, and too small a draw to make up for it.

Coco
10-15-2012, 12:16 PM
Or...it's expected that Alissa will withdraw from NHK, and Mirai is understood to be the alternate for that competition?

smarts1
10-15-2012, 01:07 PM
I hope ISU goes back and takes a hard loook at their alternates rules and rewrites them for next season because this is a disaster. The French are being ridiculous, and it's obvious they don't want Mirai there because it will make their skaters look worse. Good thing that their skaters never even had a chance of medalling in the first place.

l'etoile
10-15-2012, 01:11 PM
Or...it's expected that Alissa will withdraw from NHK, and Mirai is understood to be the alternate for that competition?

I rather like this perspective. I seriously doubt that French fed intentionally left out Mirai for that reason you mentioned, smarts. Just because people tend to perceive skaters as medal contenders and the others.

Proustable
10-15-2012, 02:12 PM
There is a degree of bad luck in that one of the fields currently experiencing such attrition is one she's already participating in.

olympic
10-15-2012, 03:17 PM
But, Mirai's only obstacle is the French Fed continually passing on her, right? I mean, if a skater withdraws from any of SC, Cup of Russia or NHK, then Mirai would still have a great shot at a 2d assignment, wouldn't she?

I assume SA would be out of the question: Flatt or Gao (other Americans) would have to withdraw for SA to replace them w/ Mirai and the competition starts this week which means too little time left on the clock.

Maybe SC, too?

I find the NHK theory interesting - Alissa might not be in shape and I don't think the JSF would pass up on Mirai, or at least she'd have a fair shot there

Fridge_Break
10-15-2012, 04:20 PM
This is.. unreal. Poor Mirai! I hope she's able to get a second event somewhere.

Iceman
10-15-2012, 04:28 PM
Just so we're clear, how many skaters is all?


Any skater who is selected to participate in the gp series. I certainly didn't mean every skater in the world lol.

Iceman
10-15-2012, 04:45 PM
Mirai's world standing is higher than both Wagner's and Caroline Zhang's, yet they both got two assignments. I guess that doesn't break any of the gp rules, but it is still perplexing.

aftershocks
10-15-2012, 04:59 PM
You just had to figure that McCorkell would eventually get a GP. Good for her :)

Re Mirai Nagasu: yes, it's pretty strange that someone so high on the SB list can't get a second assignment. But obviously the only way to guarantee yourself two spots is to do well at Worlds, which is really difficult if you skate the way she did at Nationals. And Nagasu was in a better position than skaters from smaller countries, who don't have a chance at a host pick. As others have noted, the USFSA must have figured that someone else would give her one - but Mirai is too big a threat to be attractive to organizers, and too small a draw to make up for it.

^^ THIS.