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falling_dance
10-11-2012, 01:54 AM
This is one of the reasons it infuriates me that there are sexist double-standards for women which require flexibility: a skater recovering from a back injury -- and they rarely fully recover before competing again -- can't protect their vulnerable spot by substituting alternate skills that, in my opinion, are equally valid.

Seconded.

LadyNit
10-11-2012, 01:58 AM
Sad to miss Evan but totally jazzed for Armin. :cheer2:

victoriaheidi
10-11-2012, 02:06 AM
This is one of the reasons it infuriates me that there are sexist double-standards for women which require flexibility: a skater recovering from a back injury -- and they rarely fully recover before competing again -- can't protect their vulnerable spot by substituting alternate skills that, in my opinion, are equally valid.

It's like when I was in high school swimming (a PE requirement at my school) and girls had to sit out pretty much every month, but guys never had to sit out. It didn't matter what your reasoning was: if you didn't compete, you showed up early for a 2-hour session to make it up. :/ Point is, get rid of these athletic double standards! Create a whole separate set of guidelines if you have to!

Lara
10-11-2012, 06:33 AM
Hope Evan recovers soon - in the meantime, thrilled for Armin to get a GP after all! :cheer:

Ziggy
10-11-2012, 08:43 PM
Both untrue, from what I have heard.

Well if true (that Mirai and USFS want her to have 2 GP spots but she keeps getting passed) that makes it really shocking. :mad:

I mean Mirai is clearly on top of the substitute list and we are now getting to a point where skaters way way down on the season's best list are getting picked because they are less of a threat to the host's own skaters.

ISU needs to force the organisers to always pick the skater/team highest on the substitute list to stop this shit (as well as other backroom deals between feds).

Honestly...

:mitchell:

Frau Muller
10-11-2012, 09:06 PM
Lysacek has withdrawn from Skate America...

Why am I not surprised? :slinkaway

Sylvia
10-11-2012, 11:39 PM
‏@LynnRutherford tweeted today:

Ice dancers Isabella Tobias & Deividas Stagniunas (LTU) withdrew from SKAM due to injury. No replacement will be added, 2 close to event. (also cross-posted in the SA roster thread in Kiss and Cry)

Macassar88
10-11-2012, 11:47 PM
Lol SKAM... worst acronym

chipso1
10-11-2012, 11:59 PM
Lol SKAM... worst acronym

I think CoC still takes the cake on the "bad acronym" list. ;)

kwanfan1818
10-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Argh, and the dance fields are so small to begin with.

I wish them a speedy recovery.

feraina
10-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Oh, I'm so happy for Armin! Really glad he gets a GP after all. He more than deserves it! Good luck!

victoriaheidi
10-12-2012, 12:30 AM
Please please PLEASE don't let the Miki spots go unfilled...

Ziggy
10-12-2012, 04:34 AM
Damnit such a shame to see a spot go to waste given how small the fields are. :(

Given Shakira & Stag withdrew from Finlandia Trophy recently, they shouldn't have waited this long to announce this. :/

kwanfan1818
10-12-2012, 04:46 AM
Montalbano/Krasnapolski still haven't met the GP minimum: they missed by a hair, less than a point, last season, and they missed by more at Nebelhorn and the US International. Since they didn't compete at Nepala, the last Senior B with Pairs before SA, and the Pairs SP started on the 4 Oct without them, that means that USFS should have had 15 days notice before the start of SA to replace them, if they were not given an exception to be allowed to compete without meeting the minimum. Della Monica/Guarise could have taken that spot, or as winners of Nepala, Martyusheva/Rogonov, since the winners at the Fall Senior B's go to the bottom of the alternates list, on which there are less than five pairs.

We may have a Pairs field of seven, too, at Skate America, which will bump James/Cipres into the first warmup group.

Ziggy
10-12-2012, 04:49 AM
I don't know what to think about this. M/K missed the minimum by less than a point but rules are rules and I think that the spot should have gone to Della Monica/Guarise or Martyusheva/Rogonov.

Having said that, I'd much rather see the spot go to M/K than to nobody. I mean if USFS decided to grant a provisional spot to M/K and then not replace them once they haven't reached the minimum score after all, then :mad: :mitchell: