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julieann
09-19-2012, 03:33 AM
Such a shame. :(

Hopefully Della Monica/Guarise will come out with 2 GPs out of this at least.

Sad, but good for them!

Sylvia
09-20-2012, 06:33 PM
Tiffany Vise just tweeted:

"Just got assigned to the Grand Prix Rostelecom Cup. It's in Moscow in November! I'm so excited, first trip to Russia."

This must be Hausch/Wende's spot that Vise/Baldwin are filling (ETA that this change is not yet published on the ISU site).

lavenderblue
09-20-2012, 06:41 PM
Tiffany Vise just tweeted:

"Just got assigned to the Grand Prix Rostelecom Cup. It's in Moscow in November! I'm so excited, first trip to Russia."

This must be Hausch/Wende's spot that Vise/Baldwin are filling (ETA that this change is not yet published on the ISU site).

It's reflected on the complete entries list (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=3748). Dube/Wolfe have been pulled from both assignments.

sandra_persch
09-20-2012, 06:46 PM
It's reflected on the complete entries list (http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=3748). Dube/Wolfe have been pulled from both assignments.

Glad to see both the Italians and the Israelis getting an assignment!

Sylvia
09-20-2012, 06:48 PM
Thanks! The ISR pair of Montalbano/Krasnapolsky are replacing Dube/Wolfe at Skate America; Della Monica/Guarise (ITA) have been added to Russia.

Zemgirl
09-20-2012, 07:08 PM
Thanks! The ISR pair of Montalbano/Krasnapolsky are replacing Dube/Wolfe at Skate America; Della Monica/Guarise (ITA) have been added to Russia.
What a great opportunity for both pairs. Good luck to them!

julieann
09-20-2012, 07:35 PM
I wonder what's going on with S/H?

Sylvia
09-20-2012, 07:38 PM
I asked the following question in a Chinese competition thread in Kiss and Cry earlier today:

Can you tell me if Sui/Han are listed in this "2012 National Figure Skating Grand Prix athletes list" document on the federation's site? http://chnfs.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/120913_par.pdf

Sui/Han should be 隋文静/韩聪 I don't see them listed. But Wenting Wang/Yan Zhang are, they were 4th at nationals last year and the pair I thought would replace Sui/Han so maybe they are?

kwanfan1818
09-20-2012, 08:26 PM
Della Monica/Guarise and Vise/Baldwin replace Hausch/Wende and Dube/Wolfe.

I wonder if Montalbano/Krasnopolski's assignment is provisional, since they were Top 75, but just missed the GP minimum cut off (120.90) at 2012 Euros (120.32), and scored 117.27 at the US International. They can still make the GP minimum at Nebelhorn.

Since there are only 74 Pairs teams on the SB list, all are Top 75. The only other teams on the list that didn't compete seniors last year, didn't make the minimum score, and that I know haven't split are Herbrikova/Halmaert (CZE, 115.87, entered in Nepala), Martini/Kiefer (AUT, 112.10, entered in Nepala), and Hoolin/Hunt (GBR, 94.08). These teams may have split and some of the juniors may have aged out. H/H especially and M/K have a shot to get the GP minimum at Ondrej Nepala.

Based on sammyf's info, Zhang/Wang should be in the running for a non-host spot. ETA: Wrong Zhang/Wang.

sammyf
09-20-2012, 08:40 PM
Since there are only 74 Pairs teams on the SB list, all are Top 75. The only other teams on the list that didn't compete seniors last year, didn't make the minimum score, and that I know haven't split are Herbrikova/Halmaert (CZE, 115.87), Martini/Kiefer (AUT, 112.10), and Hoolin/Hunt (GBR, 94.08). These teams may have split and some of the juniors may have aged out.

Herbrikova/Halmaert -split
Martini/Kiefer -Registered for Ondrej Nepela so together
Hoolin/Hunt -haven't registered for any IJS events in GBR so probably injured or split

Zemgirl
09-20-2012, 08:43 PM
I wonder if Montalbano/Krasnopolski's assignment is provisional, since they were Top 75, but just missed the GP minimum cut off (120.90) at 2012 Euros (120.32), and scored 117.27 at the US International. They can still make the GP minimum at Nebelhorn.
They have a 130.95 from last year's Ice Challenge, shouldn't that count?

kwanfan1818
09-20-2012, 09:40 PM
They have a 130.95 from last year's Ice Challenge, shouldn't that count?
No, only the first five or six international competitions at the beginning of the season count towards the GP minimum for that season, and these are listed in the GP announcement each year. This season's are: US International, Nebelhorn 2012, Nepala 2012, Finlandia 2012, Cup of Nice 2012. All other scores towards the GP minimums must be met at GPs, championships, Olympics, the Olympic qualifier, Youth Olympic Games, or WTT in the season before.

Last year's Icechallenge, like all 2011-12 internationals and 2012-13 internationals held before championships (unless specifically noted on the yearly communication), count towards meeting the championship TES minimums for this year. They also did Golden Spin and Nesquick last season.

At Icechallenge, their SP TES was 25.07 and their FS TES was 44.74. They made the Euros minimums easily (20, 36), but missed the Worlds minimums (28, 45). ETA: their TES scores were lower at Golden Spin and Nestle Nesquick.

Ziggy
09-21-2012, 03:58 AM
Since it's possible that Montalbano/Krasnopolski won't meet the GP minimum, why weren't Della Monica/Guarise assigned instead? :confused:

Unless the ISU decided to let M/K compete since they only missed the minimum by 0/68.

kwanfan1818
09-21-2012, 09:04 AM
Anyone in the Top 75 -- which is all 74 pairs with a qualifying PB from last season -- can be assigned even if they haven't met the GP minimum, but, at least in theory, the assignments are provisional, based on whether they meet the GP minimum in the first five Senior B's -- US International, Nebelhorn, Nepala, and Cup of Nice for Pairs and Finlandia for the other disciplines -- at the beginning of this season.

M/K are listed on the Nebelhorn roster. Martini/Kiefer could also be assigned, since they could meet the minimum at Nepala. (As sammyf wrote, Herbrikova/Halmaert split, and they've been removed from the Nepala roster.)

love_skate2011
09-21-2012, 09:19 AM
Since it's possible that Montalbano/Krasnopolski won't meet the GP minimum, why weren't Della Monica/Guarise assigned instead? :confused:

Unless the ISU decided to let M/K compete since they only missed the minimum by 0/68.

it is and anyone of the competing who did not met the minimum GP
they can still rack points competing in B Competitions prior to GP