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jlai
08-12-2012, 09:07 PM
I think when the dust settles, Nagasu will probably get another assignment, whether it's another GP or senior B. It's probably too early to say Nagasu is robbed of an assignment.

I wish Nagasu were assigned to SA (for my own selfish reasons :) ), but then USFS has assigned two 5th place nationals finishers to SA (Razzano and Gao), and it is probably good to spread the wealth around.

kwanfan1818
08-12-2012, 10:54 PM
I know, and it makes me feel bek-ish that bothers me :lol:

Ziggy
08-12-2012, 11:50 PM
GP spots, apart from host spots, have nothing to do with Nationals results (see Dornbush). I'm annoyed that unless Team Nagasu/USFS turned down the spot, the GP Announcement rules are worth less than toilet paper, which is, at least, useful.

Honestly. :mad:

Pikachuusb
08-13-2012, 05:00 AM
Im not going to go on, as I agree with most people. I think its ridiculous that we are even having to have this discussion. Mirai should have been given a 2nd Grand Prix at this point. I know that no one likes to follow rules, but they are there for a reason. I hope she is given one soon.

Hedwig
08-13-2012, 06:47 AM
What rule? The French federation can ignore Nagasu if they want a relatively weak field. Any rules issued from the ISU are just guidelines, not mandatory. I'd like to see Nagasu at NHK trophy. So I shall welcome their consideration.

IF the French federation had chosen Phaneuf as a replacement. Do you think anyone (from the ISU or other federations) protests their decision? I don't think so. In the case of GPS, the host federations always have their choices and they are respected.

Like others pointed out: According to the ISU rules, Nagasu should have been chosen.

In the past they had more leeway and it lead to weak fields and host countries doing each others favours. Therefore, other rules had been in place.

Even if Mirai still gets another GP I am still pissed that the rules are not followed.

If they had chose Phaneuf, I would have protested even more.

SamuraiK
08-15-2012, 01:53 AM
So any guesses for the two open spots in SC and NHK due to Marley/Brubaker split??

Next 5 in line from the SB list (not counting teams doing JGP):

Vise & Baldwin (already at Skate Canada)
James & CIpres (likely will get the TBA at TEB)
Gerboldt & Enbert (already at Skate Canada)
Hausch & Wende
Steele & Schultz (are they still together???)

MY guess is H&W will get Skate Canada and Gerboldt&Enbert willl get NHK Trophy.

kwanfan1818
08-15-2012, 02:27 AM
You mean if the host feds follow the "suggestions" in the GP Announcement?

NMURA
08-15-2012, 02:41 AM
Like others pointed out: According to the ISU rules, Nagasu should have been chosen.

In the past they had more leeway and it lead to weak fields and host countries doing each others favours. Therefore, other rules had been in place.

Even if Mirai still gets another GP I am still pissed that the rules are not followed.

If they had chose Phaneuf, I would have protested even more.

What FSU folks "pointed out" doesn't matter. The ISU and host federations decide. As long as there's no penalty for not following "rules", they are just guidelines. Some FSU folks pointed out that the Japanese and French federations didn't follow the GP assignment rules for men, but "rules" themselves have changed instead.

SamuraiK
08-15-2012, 02:51 AM
You mean if the host feds follow the "suggestions" in the GP Announcement?


Of course, the ISU GP rules are a hot mess, thats for sure. But they are still chosing from the next 5 in line (Li was the exception thank to 3 russian ladies already booked at TEB, the rules are allowing Nagasu being left out so far so Im not wuzrobbing her yet )

Anyway, I just want Gerboldt & Enbert to get their 2nd event right now so the RUS fed has no choise but to give Martiusheva & Rogonov the TBA at Cup of Russia.:D

PinkFeathers
08-15-2012, 03:06 AM
If Plushenko is doing a show in St Petersburg on the 7th (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/irfc1u), does that take him out of the running for the CoR TBA?

I would think it would, but who knows with anything about this season at this point :slinkaway

euterpe
08-15-2012, 03:23 AM
Due to the announced MARLEY / BRUBAKER split, there are now two open slots: SC and NHK. Who's on top of the subs list?

The Accordion
08-15-2012, 03:34 AM
So any guesses for the two open spots in SC and NHK due to Marley/Brubaker split??

Next 5 in line from the SB list (not counting teams doing JGP):

Vise & Baldwin (already at Skate Canada)
James & CIpres (likely will get the TBA at TEB)
Gerboldt & Enbert (already at Skate Canada)
Hausch & Wende
Steele & Schultz (are they still together???)

MY guess is H&W will get Skate Canada and Gerboldt&Enbert willl get NHK Trophy.

^

crankyintheAM
08-15-2012, 07:11 AM
If Plushenko is doing a show in St Petersburg on the 7th (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/irfc1u), does that take him out of the running for the CoR TBA?

I would think it would, but who knows with anything about this season at this point :slinkaway

Doesn't CoR competition start on the 9th? Everything is possible!

kwanfan1818
08-15-2012, 07:30 AM
(Li was the exception thank to 3 russian ladies already booked at TEB, the rules are allowing Nagasu being left out so far so Im not wuzrobbing her yet )


What section in the GP announcement allows the French Fed to bypass 1. the top-ranked Ladies skater in the Top 24 and 2. an eligible Ladies skater in the first group of five -- i.e., not already assigned; no three US Ladies already assigned -- to select a skater from the second group of five?

Sylvia
08-15-2012, 03:13 PM
According to this http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2012/gpsladies.htm the empty TEB spot has gone to Christina Gao.
I don't know when the GP Ladies PDF update was published but the latest version dated August 10 does include Gao's name with the "(new)" designation for TEB.

Evan Lysacek's name was added to the GP Men PDF today (August 15) for Skate America - ditto for Castelli/Shnapir in the GP Pairs PDF (Marley/Brubaker's names have been crossed out :(), and Cannuscio/McManus in the Dance PDF.