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sandra_persch
08-08-2012, 05:01 PM
How in the heck did Li get that assignment?

Host country politics. Am starting to wonder if China will really give a third lady the CoC spot of if they take one of the French instead

kwanfan1818
08-08-2012, 06:56 PM
Voronov was first in the order. What shows that FRA was able to choose from the Top 5, was that Guan was chosen over Dmmitriev, both of whom were assigned to CoC. (Hendrickx was already assigned to TEB and Rogozine has NHK the week after.)



See the sentence I bolded above - Zijun Li is #24 on the Season Best list: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3588715&postcount=335

:duh: This is why it didn't apply to the Men: they were 25 or below in SB. However, the exact order among the Ladies was:

8 Czisny -- assumed passed due to injury, then

11 Nagasu -- couldn't do CoC, but could have done TEB two weeks later
14 Korpi -- assigned to CoC, with initial assignment at CoR the following week
16 Biryukova -- initial assignment NHK the following week
17 Korobeyikova -- already assigned to TEB
19 Shelepen -- initial assignment NHK the following week

The language of the GP Announcement said that they created groups of five: the only way that Li should have been considered is if 1. As soon as Korpi was chosen, Li moved into the group of five as the next one (24) on the list, and they aren't going by strict groups of five, perhaps in general or perhaps only among the Top 24, or 2. The Russian Fed and USFS passed on behalf of their skaters, and then they went to Group 2 of five, where the Top 24 skaters had to be picked first.

Li, like Biryukova and Shelpen, was already assigned to NHK, so it's not as if the ISU automatically passed on skaters who would have back-to-back assignments and had to travel from Europe to Asia or vice versa, and they allowed China to choose Korpi to do China->Russia, when Russia->France ->Finland would have been a more reasonable competition schedule.

SamuraiK
08-08-2012, 07:22 PM
Can we just accept they are chosing their susbtitutes as they please ignoring all their convoluted regulations?? It's better that way :lol:

Plus the feds have shown more than once they don't really care about the skater invited having another event the previous or following week.

aliona22
08-08-2012, 07:26 PM
What's the strategy from the French Fed? Be nice to the Chinese so that they return the favors? Getting a softer field? They could care less about paying ticket holders who would rather see a stronger skater!!!!!

that's not fair... TEB annually produces the strongest ladies field on the GP.

SamuraiK
08-08-2012, 07:30 PM
Now will CHINA give their TBA spot to a chinese lady (Quiuying Zhu probably) or chose a foreign skater instead (hopefully Biryukova/Korobeynikova/Shelepen).

kirkbiggestfan
08-08-2012, 08:00 PM
that's not fair... TEB annually produces the strongest ladies field on the GP.

It used to be the case when the French ladies had no chance whatsoever. Now, that Meite and Silete can actually land jumps and hope for a decent placement, the field is getting softer.

mgobluegirl
08-09-2012, 12:13 AM
They could care less about paying ticket holders who would rather see a stronger skater!!!!!

Not a ticket-holder here, but I think Li is an exciting young skater, and I'd much rather see her than, say, Shelepen. Or Biryukova.

ali_dorate
08-09-2012, 05:39 AM
I can't understand why Chinese federation didn't give the TBA spot at CoC to Zijun.:confused:
Traveling from China to Paris and again flying back to Japan in two weeks is really tight and demanding schedule.

I hope Zijun get over this and make a successful debut at GPS.

shine
08-09-2012, 08:36 AM
Is it really that much further to travel to Japan than to Shanghai from Beijing where she trains?

Marco
08-09-2012, 09:01 AM
Yay for Li Zijun having 2 assignments! Zhang Kexin also has two, right?

kwanfan1818
08-09-2012, 05:07 PM
Zhang was guaranteed two by placing top 12 at Worlds.

Ziggy
08-09-2012, 05:14 PM
I can't understand why Chinese federation didn't give the TBA spot at CoC to Zijun.:confused:

To keep their TBA spot for another skater (who would be unable to get a GP spot otherwise - like Quiying Zhu).

npavel
08-09-2012, 05:16 PM
TEB couldn't go to a Russian lady, they already have 3 of them: Polina KOROBEYNIKOVA RUS -Julia LIPNITSKAIA RUS -Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA RUS and China may save their spot to another chinese

kwanfan1818
08-10-2012, 01:12 AM
You're right -- I was looking in the wrong column when counting up Russian Ladies. The French Fed would have had to go to the next group of five, and Li is the only Ladies skater in the Top 24 in the second group of five (Li, Gao, Lacoste, J. Helgesson, Flatt*)

*Hae-Jin Kim is staying Jr., yes? If not, then she's in the group and Flatt is in Group 3.

ali_dorate
08-10-2012, 01:57 PM
Now Zijun's name disappears from TEB:eek: (The issued date of the list is August 9).
And no replacement and the number of the competitors is 9.
Zijun turned down the offer from TEB?
I think it would be much better for her to compete at CoC.