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Jammers
05-25-2012, 11:20 PM
Mirai didn't skate well enough last season to deserve 2 events on the GP this year. She needs a wake up call.

carriemarie
05-25-2012, 11:30 PM
Mirai didn't skate well enough last season to deserve 2 events on the GP this year. She needs a wake up call.

Well, Mirai did medal at a GP last year. I am sure she will end up with two GP's with her World Ranking and alternate standing. Or maybe this is USFS way to tell her to pull it together and skate to her potential. Worked for Zhang (who has nowhere near the success of Nagasu, but I had written Caroline off a couple of years ago and look what happened)

pinky166
05-26-2012, 12:20 AM
At this rate, Yan Han has zero chance for worlds even if he skates the lights out next season. Idiot federation! Grrrrrrr

Actually, no. He can always make his senior debut at Worlds 2012 and likely will if Song has an underwhelming season and Yan beats him at Nationals. He Zhang is a strong skater who can represent China well at JW if Yan goes to senior Worlds. Han Yan can do what Ricky Dornbush did in 2010-2011, JGP in the fall then senior Worlds in the spring, same goes for Josh Farris or Jason Brown.

timmybopper
05-26-2012, 06:00 AM
Did anyone figure out why Cynthia Phaneuf was left off the Canadian assignment list? Have they lost hope in her already? I see this going the way of Mira Leung...

jjane45
05-26-2012, 06:11 AM
Actually, no. He can always make his senior debut at Worlds 2012 and likely will if Song has an underwhelming season and Yan beats him at Nationals. He Zhang is a strong skater who can represent China well at JW if Yan goes to senior Worlds. Han Yan can do what Ricky Dornbush did in 2010-2011, JGP in the fall then senior Worlds in the spring, same goes for Josh Farris or Jason Brown.

The problem is, Chinese Fed tends to make up its mind at the beginning of season and stick to it. Yan will not win Nationals over Song barring major disasters. Seniority rules :S

demetriosj
05-26-2012, 02:57 PM
Mirai didn't skate well enough last season to deserve 2 events on the GP this year. She needs a wake up call.

If she doesn't "deserve 2 events", who in your opinion did?

Sylvia
05-26-2012, 03:04 PM
If she doesn't "deserve 2 events", who in your opinion did?
Jammers' likely reply: Why Ashley Wagner and Gracie Gold, of course! Every other U.S. girl should just decline their GP assignments. ;)

demetriosj
05-26-2012, 03:07 PM
Jammers' likely reply: Why Ashley Wagner and Gracie Gold, of course! Every other U.S. girl should just decline their GP assignments. ;)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Pikachuusb
05-26-2012, 04:49 PM
LOL and gag all at once. Id stop watching if only those 2 were allowed to compete. Give me the others who didnt "deserve" to get a 2nd.

carriemarie
05-26-2012, 06:24 PM
Did anyone figure out why Cynthia Phaneuf was left off the Canadian assignment list? Have they lost hope in her already? I see this going the way of Mira Leung...

I imagine the fed is over her, but she will get an assignment. SC just is in such disarray with their ladies right now. And we thought the US had a slump. I think the Junior Skater Osmond? has potentially, but she is nowhere near the quality of our Junior or middle of the pack senior skaters..... They will probably monitor Phaneuf, but her technique isn't horrible. I can't figure out her problem. It seems mostly mental and growth issues. She seems scared on the ice and needs a good skate to bring her confidence back. Seeing her live at 4cc was sad. I do think she is okay and would hope she tries for one more year.

kwanfan1818
05-27-2012, 02:20 AM
The only spot Phaneuf has a reasonable chance of getting is the TBD for Skate Canada, as, if the rules are the same as last year, there are ten Ladies ahead of her that have to be offered a second before Top 75 skaters are considered, assuming their country doesn't have three and the travel/visa logistics aren't prohibitive. Last season, there were three non-host withdrawals (two for Lepisto, one for Hecken), and two substitutes in total.

Rock2
05-27-2012, 02:55 AM
I'd send Cynthia to B comps this year and let her ride the bench a little. She hasn't had a decent result in any GP in her comeback so time's up honey, as much as I love ya.

I want to see Samson get monitored, do well, and get the 3rd spot.

carriemarie
05-27-2012, 07:26 AM
I'd send Cynthia to B comps this year and let her ride the bench a little. She hasn't had a decent result in any GP in her comeback so time's up honey, as much as I love ya.

I want to see Samson get monitored, do well, and get the 3rd spot.

They should just send Duhamel........

danafan
05-27-2012, 05:59 PM
We should send Phaneuf, Desanctis, and Najarro to the new US senior B and send the highest of them to Skate Canada.
I'm sure her dismal skate at WTT didn't help Phaneuf's cause.
Osmond seems by far the best chance of getting two spots for Sochi.
What are the chances of Osmond picking up a second grand prix later on?

kwanfan1818
05-27-2012, 06:13 PM
Unless she wins an early Senior B and they've changed the rule so that the winners of Senior B's go to the top of the alternates list, not the bottom, about the same as Pfaneuf's, virtually none without more rule changes (like putting GP medalists at the top of the alternates list): there are six women with Top 24 SB and four women with Top 24 WS ahead of her on the alternates list, each of whom has to get a second before she is even in the Top 75 selection pool. After that, both she and Phaneuf would be in the first group of three with Flatt, and even if a flu swept the Ladies and over 1/5 of the remaining field had to pull out of the other five events to to the Top 75, would a host nation choose her over the other two, if they are trying to protect their own Ladies' chances, since they get a choice of the top three?