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VarBar
05-12-2012, 05:27 PM
Yag's 3A didn't have the pretty air position, but had great power, he was so athletic so I voted for him. Plush for his air position, and Weir because I like how effortless it looks.

I too voted for Yagudin's 3A for the reasons you mentioned. Just impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph7zyMVCzRQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=286s

aftershocks
05-12-2012, 05:34 PM
i'm SOOOOOOOOOO shocked not to see Stephane Lambiel and Adam Rippon on this list! :lol::lol::lol: (Considering the rest of their skating, the heck with the 3A!)


Are you kidding? Lambiel always struggled with the 3A. He even took it out of his SP because he often fell on it.

Adam's 3A- I don't see anything extraordinary in it.

Obviously, snoopysnake is pulling someone's leg, eh? :lol:

Lamby and AdaRipp are notorious for having difficulty with their 3-axels, despite their otherwise gorgeous talents. Adam even joked at WTT that he wanted to search for Axel Paulsen and "kill him." Of course Axel is already dead, so Adam may be better off "searching" for the secret of Axel's technique. In any case, and btw, Axel himself never landed a 3-axel in his day ... unheard of to be able to rotate 3 1/2 revolutions from a forward edge (or from any edge) in those days. :P

smarts1
05-12-2012, 05:54 PM
I'm kind of surprised that Joubert is on the list. Of course all his jumps have amazing height, and probably some of the highest jumps in the business, but he doesn't even step up at all into his axel.

aftershocks
05-12-2012, 05:58 PM
^^ The list is obviously random and not authoritative. :)

FS Jump History:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNH49SjoWjw

Very informative video with Scott Hamilton explaining and demonstrating all of the fs jumps (great contribution by Scott here -- he should do this more instead of commentating at events). There are pics of Ulrich Salchow, and Axel Paulsen (from the 1880s in weird skates :eek: which makes it even more remarkable that Axel invented this jump -- Adam needs to see this pic, :lol: ).

In addition, Scott mentions really interesting info, such as the fact that Brent Taylor of Canada is the first skater to perform a 3-axel in competition (with a wonky landing tho'). As we all know, Dick Button was the first skater to perform a 3-loop, and of course, tho' it is not mentioned in this video (b/c it hadn't happened yet), Kurt Browning was the first to perform a quad in competition -- it was early in his career tho', and I don't recall that Kurt ever attempted it again during his competitive career.

Also included in the vid, Don Jackson performing first ever 3-lutz.

Jaana
05-12-2012, 06:03 PM
My votes: Ilia Kulik, Ilia Kulik and Ilia Kulik. His triple axel was effortless and a thing of beauty with great height and the landing was soft with a flow.

aftershocks
05-12-2012, 06:14 PM
I like watching Ilia. Here's his 1998 Olympic-winning performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhPlfpz5fEQ

I think Ilia had all-around great skills, excellent technique on his jumps and soft landings. While he had an excellent 3-axel, I don't think it's the best ever. It's just he's an all-around great skater. I would have loved to see Ilia continue with eligible competition for awhile, as I think he could have developed more artistry, but certainly his presentation skills were much better than Yags' and Plush's. Ilia did wonderfully under a lot of pressure in Nagano. :encore:

doctor
05-12-2012, 06:25 PM
I actually disagree. He does break at the waist a little bit before he takes off (not much), but that is, in fact, what allows him to put that extra pressure on the forward outside edge/blade to lift him off and get the amazing distance and flow in addition to the height of the jump, and personally I like that more than a lot of other skaters who get height because they jump a lot more up and down rather than across, but don't get as much distance or flow.
Other skaters e.g. Yagudin and Zagorodniuk also had big 3axels with amazing ice coverage, but they did not break at the waist when they were about to do 3axels. Brezina’s 3axel already has a lot of good qualities and he is a good jumper. But in order to become a beautiful jumper, Brezina just needs to fix that takeoff position, and I think it can be fixed without hurting his height and distance.

aftershocks
05-12-2012, 08:48 PM
Of the younger skaters on the rise, Ross Miner has an excellent triple axel. He performs two of them (one in combo) in his first two jumping passes in this clip from Japan GP last fall:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr16RWDIlWw&feature=related

matti
05-12-2012, 08:51 PM
Midori Ito in drag! :cool:

BmcC102
05-12-2012, 08:57 PM
Stefan Lindemann is one of my favorites, due to the deep landing edges. I loved when no matter how 'off' he was in the air, he could land it smoothly like a cat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nk0yrJq6hnY#t=69s

Spread eagle into it, late in the program:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ascz3F17vgc#t=213s

aftershocks
05-12-2012, 09:02 PM
Midori Ito in drag! :cool:


Ha ha, but she never performed in drag -- and didn't have to. Her 3-axel is still one of the best ladies or mens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2H6PfFr59M Ito 1990 Worlds
3-axel at about 1:16

barbk
05-12-2012, 09:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2H6PfFr59M Ito 1990 Worlds
3-axel at about 1:16

That really was an amazing triple axel. And then she goes on to rip off a triple triple just before the four minute mark of the program.

Teenes
05-12-2012, 11:43 PM
I'm not very good at comparing, but I do remember loving this triple axel of Kurt Browning's (1997, 3 years after he turned pro):
http://youtu.be/jen0K7vCRLc?t=1m6s

Katarzyna
05-12-2012, 11:51 PM
I voted for Kulik - Petrenko - Urmanov. But if Abt, Fadeev or Zagorodniuk would have been on this list, my vote might have gone to these guys as well.

I loooove airy jumps and Russians / former Soviet skaters really seemed to fly when doing this jump. :kickass:

Aussie Willy
05-13-2012, 12:58 AM
Her 3-axel is still one of the best ladies or mens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2H6PfFr59M Ito 1990 Worlds
3-axel at about 1:16
I totally agree. It would have been good to have her in the poll.

I would have loved to see her compete with the guys back then.