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Rock2
05-12-2012, 04:45 AM
1. Petrenko. So much height and his body in the air is very square to the ice and straight. What sets him apart is his landings. Arched back, speed, open shoulders, legs/arms extended, running edge. Always
2. Boitano. Much the same as Petrenko but a little slower in the air and a little less strength and speed on the landing but still very good. Extremely consistent though.
3. Kulik. Height and effortlessness. Lands softly but with a bit of a whimper.

Separator for me is the landing. Not many people land with a strong body position, strong back, extension and flow...and hold it. That's why Viktor was the best to me; consistency and confidence right through to the end.

screech
05-12-2012, 04:47 AM
Petrenko (http://youtu.be/QimoBJwAdbE?t=21s) by far. I mean, come on (http://youtu.be/QimoBJwAdbE?t=37s)!

mtnskater
05-12-2012, 06:35 AM
Crazy unexpected votes. In my eyes in no particular order:

1. Brian Boitano

2. Viktor Petrenko

3. Alexei Yagudin

All powerful, good speed and height with rock solid edging.

Vash01
05-12-2012, 06:43 AM
He may not have had much else going for him all the time, but Griazev always had a fantastic 3A

ITA. I wanted to add his name to the poll, but I had only 12 choices.

Jenny81
05-12-2012, 07:23 AM
1. Ilia kulik
2. Ilia kulik
3. Ilia kulik
:cool::cool::cool:

briancoogaert
05-12-2012, 09:27 AM
I'm surprised Yagudin got so many votes. He did many things well but his 3axel always looked really heavy and labored.

But then I suppose Yags is the male Kwan and will always do well in any poll his name is in.
I hope you are just talking about winning polls. Beside that, Yagudin and Kwan really don't have the same kind of skating. Michelle was never heavy and labored. :P

Anyway, I agree about Yagudin's 3Axel. But I remember that I've been impressed by his 3Axel in 2002. They looked heavy, but they had amazing height. He really worked on his 3Axels in the Olympic year !

briancoogaert
05-12-2012, 09:41 AM
I forgot to mention Samuel (http://youtu.be/O12HFvqJWP4?t=2m54s) Contesti (http://youtu.be/tQ2TIvOhV_c?t=1m4s). He always had great jumps (http://youtu.be/O12HFvqJWP4?t=0m40s).

EricRohmer
05-12-2012, 12:06 PM
Chan's beautiful 3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En_0IfMQTWU&t=0m49s

pinky166
05-12-2012, 01:25 PM
I forgot to mention Samuel (http://youtu.be/O12HFvqJWP4?t=2m54s) Contesti (http://youtu.be/tQ2TIvOhV_c?t=1m4s). He always had great jumps (http://youtu.be/O12HFvqJWP4?t=0m40s).

He has good height but not good flowout on most of his jumps.

I still think Brezina or Song has the best 3a, just so massive! Hanyu too when he doesn't flip over on his landing edge, his technique is just so pure, the speed he carries into it and the power of that jump is amazing considering he's just a wiry rail of a teenage boy.

ali_dorate
05-12-2012, 01:29 PM
Chan's beautiful 3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En_0IfMQTWU&t=0m49s

I used to love Chan's 3A. It was gorgeous when it succeeded.
But as he changed the technique these days, I don't expect that huge 3A from him anymore.

Han Yan always reminds me of young Chan, not only his deep edges but also that huge impressive 3A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhStS3mSYY

doctor
05-12-2012, 02:38 PM
I still think Brezina or Song has the best 3a, just so massive! Hanyu too when he doesn't flip over on his landing edge, his technique is just so pure, the speed he carries into it and the power of that jump is amazing considering he's just a wiry rail of a teenage boy.
Brezina does have big jumps but his break-waist takeoff position has to go before he can be considered a beautiful jumper. Song is indeed a good jumper but what boring programs! I hope he’ll show us more interesting programs next season.

I also like Jeremy’s 3a—he has difficult entry and good height. :)

Why do you think Hanyu “flips over on his landing edge?” Most of the time he lands his 3a on outside edge with very good flow, just like Jeremy and Song. Besides he has more speed going into his 3a than most other skaters. He “flipped over” on his landing edge in his SP at the Worlds, but that was due to his injury, and he admitted in his interview that he “didn’t land a very clean 3A” in his SP.

ltnskater
05-12-2012, 04:56 PM
Brezina does have big jumps but his break-waist takeoff position has to go before he can be considered a beautiful jumper.

I actually disagree. He does break at the waist a little bit before he takes off (not much), but that is, in fact, what allows him to put that extra pressure on the forward outside edge/blade to lift him off and get the amazing distance and flow in addition to the height of the jump, and personally I like that more than a lot of other skaters who get height because they jump a lot more up and down rather than across, but don't get as much distance or flow.

Aceon6
05-12-2012, 05:01 PM
I saw Petrenko crank off 4 in a row as an encore at COI/Boston back in the day. He wanted to do more, but they cut his music.

bardtoob
05-12-2012, 05:12 PM
I respect Orser and Boitano for having the 3A-2Lp ... I'll also give it to Pretrenko, but I can't stand his skating post-1988.

aftershocks
05-12-2012, 05:26 PM
I think videos should have been posted of all the guys highlighted in the poll. Certainly, some non-mentioned skaters whose vids have been linked by a couple of posters display extraordinary 3-axels, including Jumping Joe Sabovcik -- and Wowsa, V. Zagorodniuk had an amazing 3-axel with gorgeous height. I'd have to say VZ's the best, particularly of all the Russian guys, especially if VZ was always consistent with it.

I voted for other (VZ), Weir, and Boitano. I think Johnny has displayed great technique and great consistency on his 3-axel. Brian B's was always superb.

But certainly there are many many male skaters with beautiful 3-axels, so I think choosing is hard, and it might be helpful to base selection on technique, consistency, height, or also break it down by those from an earlier era, and those from the recent generation.

I agree that Ryan Bradley is also a great jumper, and his skating had such huge potential that IMO was never quite fulfilled and might have been had he branched out to a different coach and trained in ballet to develop more stretch. Ryan has huge height on his jumps, but he often lacks consistency, stretch, polish, and spot-on technique.

While Yags and Plush have always been great jumpers and achieved more success than their Russian/ Ukrainian predecessors, Zagorodniuk and Fadeev had more all-around talent, IMO. I also love Kulik, Abt and Urmanov and feel they are better skaters than Yags and Plush.

This seems to be a popular thread. Lots of great 3-axels out there. PChid's is not one of them. Kudos to Pat for perfecting quads, but he still does not have a consistent 3-axel.